Eagle needs some upgrades, and I need help. - DodgeIntrepid.Net Forums - Dodge Intrepid, Concorde, 300m and Eagle Vision chat
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
post #1 of 61 (permalink) Old 10-03-2012, 10:58 PM Thread Starter
Intrepid Newbie
 
Dying Breed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 30
Feedback: 0 / 0%
 
Question Eagle needs some upgrades, and I need help.

Ive been wanting to make a few improvements here and there on my Eagle. Ive had it for a little more than a year, and all ive gotten to was replacing the oem aluminum rims with 16" steelies. Now to start, I wanted to do the simplest thing, and thats installing a cold air intake. The thing is, I have no idea where to start. Ive read up on Spectre and I like what they are about so I've made my brand decision, but where to go from here.

As a side bundle of questions, in the future, is it possible to do an AWD conversion and/or replacing the 4-speed auto with a 5-speed manual transmission? Or are these just ridiculous.

I appreciate the replies in advance!
Help me out here fellas!
Attached Images
File Type: jpg dd.jpg (159.6 KB, 24 views)
File Type: jpg photo1.jpg (158.4 KB, 33 views)
Dying Breed is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 61 (permalink) Old 10-03-2012, 11:06 PM Thread Starter
Intrepid Newbie
 
Dying Breed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 30
Feedback: 0 / 0%
 
Another thing.

What about exhaust systems? Any Bolt-on options?

And I've read up on an ECU flash for the greater flow of air from a CAI to actually count. Something to do with the fuel injector putting through more fuel to accommodate the increase in air flow.
Dying Breed is offline  
post #3 of 61 (permalink) Old 10-04-2012, 11:01 AM
Intrepid Pro
 
EagleESI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Chatt, TN
Posts: 4,269
Feedback: 2 / 100%
                     
The first thing, how is maintenance? Oil, Plugs, Trans Service, any suspension parts worn out?

CAI is not that big of a gain. Improving the airflow from the filter to the throttle bodies would net the same. To have a true CAI would require alot of effort such as moving the charcoal canister and ecu out of the way so the filter can drop down into the fender more. Personally I suggest opening the opposite side of the airbox open (facing towards fender) adding a K&N filter and replacing the accordion style tube with decent piping from the box to the throttle bodies.

There is no reprogramming for our cars. And with it being electronically controlled swapping injectors will only improve in a small window of things. AKA WOT (wide open throttle) where the duty cycle is near 100% on injector flow rate. However you can get more air into the engine by boring out the intake and swapping those twin 38mm for 52mm 3.3 throttle bodies. But that does requires alot of work.


Exhaust is all a manner of personal choice. These engine rather you have the 3.3 or 3.5 are not big enough for a nice tone like a v8, however At low rpms and higher rpms mine sounds freaking awesome. But alot of annoying rasp in the 2.5k-3.8k range. I have the 3.3 however and OHV engines always sound different than OHC engines.

Here is decent vid to hear my exhaust..
http://youtu.be/1s1ey8HriUk

One of the biggest things you can do is get a Aux. Trans cooler. This helps out on so many levels for keeping your car happy always a huge upgrade. Why I have this huge thing on mine..





The biggest things you can do are Factory Upgrades, such as OTIS (Overhead Travel Info System), leather seats, and the biggest one AutoStick. A/s will bring whole new level of enjoyment to your car far as drivability. Also, there is a 300M PHP brake upgrade which is considerable amount of work and parts but worth it if you are a spirited driver.

There is a bunch of ways to go far as upgrades and personalizing your ride. All just depends on which way you want to go. Handling? Power? Comfort?

EagleESI is offline  
post #4 of 61 (permalink) Old 10-04-2012, 05:18 PM Thread Starter
Intrepid Newbie
 
Dying Breed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 30
Feedback: 0 / 0%
 
Well I've been keeping up on maintenance as best I can. Since I got the car I've kept up regular oil changes, using 10w-30 synthetic. Every 5 thousand miles. Keep the fluids topped off, and plugs are good. Aside from me needing new head gaskets im pretty much set. As for suspension wear, I have no idea how to check.

My plan was exactly as you said, removing the things underneath the air filter box now and attaching them elsewhere. That would leave a nice gap for the cone head of the CAI to go pretty damn low. However I'm not sure what parts I need. In fact I was going to use APC piping is make myself instead of the name brand stuff. Saving some money where I can.

And what is this auxilliary trans cooler? I don't think ive ever heard of it.

As for the big picture, I'm looking for a nice sound to my 3.5 and POWER.
Dying Breed is offline  
post #5 of 61 (permalink) Old 10-11-2012, 01:22 PM
Intrepid Pro
 
YesImLDS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Columbia, Missouri
Posts: 2,745
Feedback: 1 / 100%
           
AWD and manual transmission is not very possible without you wanting to do have a ton of self frabication... Sadly.

As for my opinion on some things:
Some Alloys or maybe some nice hubcap covers haha.
Exhaust always adds a little pep in your step and makes you feel good with the rumble.
Other then that I don't specifically know enough about 1st gens to say much more.
YesImLDS is offline  
post #6 of 61 (permalink) Old 10-11-2012, 01:42 PM
1st Gen FTW - It's AutoMedic!

 
cdmccul's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Garrison, ND
Posts: 15,412
Feedback: 18 / 100%
                     
hehehehe, I like your yellow tape intake mod...

I honestly thought it was deliberate - took me a minute to see that it is tape!
cdmccul is offline  
post #7 of 61 (permalink) Old 10-11-2012, 01:52 PM
Intrepid Pro
 
GTXKen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Lowell, IN
Posts: 1,925
Feedback: 2 / 100%
                     
I kind of like the stock Vision rims, what did you do with them?

I would spend money on poly bushings, wheels and tires before doing the exhaust, you need to take in more air before you NEED a larger exhaust so there is not much to be gained there. You could probably just replace your current muffler with something different to get the nice tone. I agree with Eagleesi that you should go through the car as far as maintenance goes. Look at a site like summit racing for a trans cooler, increasing the size of the trans cooler keeps the trans fluid cooler and keeps the trans happy. The transmissions worst enemy is heat.

I'm on my 11th LH Car!

2010 F150 FX4 34k
2004 Impala LS 64K
1997 Intrepid Silver 3.3 186k
1997 Intrepid Sport 3.5 FranknTrep 212K/160K Engine
1995 Intrepid Red 3.5L 108K
1995 Vision TSi 87K
1996 Intrepid Teal 3.3L 69K
1970 GTX 512CI

Pictures:
Vision
Intrepids
GTX
FX4

Impala
GTXKen is offline  
post #8 of 61 (permalink) Old 10-11-2012, 09:14 PM Thread Starter
Intrepid Newbie
 
Dying Breed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 30
Feedback: 0 / 0%
 
well then it looks like I'll be starting with general upgrades. I've already decided on a spectre CAI and will be ordering that soon enough. And the transmission cooler will come soon after.

As for the stock alloy rims, I've got them stocked away, probably putting them up for sale. I always preferred steelies and want to get center caps for them, though I don't even know where to begin looking for those.
Dying Breed is offline  
post #9 of 61 (permalink) Old 10-11-2012, 09:18 PM Thread Starter
Intrepid Newbie
 
Dying Breed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 30
Feedback: 0 / 0%
 
And I have to say, GTXKEN, your Eagle is GORGEOUS. I wish my paint was that beautiful, maybe then I'd be more apt to get myself a set of nice rims.

On my eagle...well...there's barely any clearcoat left.
Dying Breed is offline  
post #10 of 61 (permalink) Old 10-11-2012, 11:18 PM
1st Gen FTW - It's AutoMedic!

 
cdmccul's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Garrison, ND
Posts: 15,412
Feedback: 18 / 100%
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dying Breed View Post
well then it looks like I'll be starting with general upgrades. I've already decided on a spectre CAI and will be ordering that soon enough. And the transmission cooler will come soon after.

As for the stock alloy rims, I've got them stocked away, probably putting them up for sale. I always preferred steelies and want to get center caps for them, though I don't even know where to begin looking for those.
Center caps generally have to be found on second gen police units - but they take special lug nuts - make sure you get the lug nuts with the caps... They are like 8 bucks a piece, and only available at dealerships.

There are a few sets floating around here from time to time.
cdmccul is offline  
post #11 of 61 (permalink) Old 10-11-2012, 11:24 PM Thread Starter
Intrepid Newbie
 
Dying Breed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 30
Feedback: 0 / 0%
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cdmccul View Post
Center caps generally have to be found on second gen police units - but they take special lug nuts - make sure you get the lug nuts with the caps... They are like 8 bucks a piece, and only available at dealerships.

There are a few sets floating around here from time to time.
I wonder if caps from crown vic models will work, or perhaps a second gen intrepid interceptor?

I could have sworn I saw a black trep on here with black steelies and center caps, just dont remember what use it was.

How do I even begin to look for these? what dimensions do i need to look for?
Dying Breed is offline  
post #12 of 61 (permalink) Old 10-12-2012, 12:11 AM
1st Gen FTW - It's AutoMedic!

 
cdmccul's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Garrison, ND
Posts: 15,412
Feedback: 18 / 100%
                     
I'm 99% sure it has to be a Second Gen Intrepid Interceptor (or what ever they called them). Looking on eBay, Kijijijijijijijijiji (like bananananana?), or CL is your best bet, or your local salvage yard. I know I was with a member (GORM) in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, and we scored a full set with lug nuts - I think he gave like $50 for the set.

The steel wheel you are using I think uses a different center design than the Ford units, and keeps them from working. You might explore using factory Ford wheels though. Also, talk to user ShadowVox6 here on the board - he had some other sort of centers on his wheels I think...
cdmccul is offline  
post #13 of 61 (permalink) Old 10-12-2012, 12:19 AM
Woober Goobers!

 
Ronbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Tiny Pebble, AR
Posts: 40,256
Feedback: 44 / 100%
                     
I believe shadowvox(Tom Romans) used steelies on his Special and used some sort of GM center caps on them. Something like from a Grand Am or Grand Prix. Might want to do a search for him and his posts.

I believe the 2nd gen PoPo lug nuts might be the same as what you find on the 2nd gen Intrepid SE. The type that hold wheel covers on. They both have the shoulder on the lug nut that holds the wheel cover or Police center cap on. Like Cean said they're dealer item only. If you can find some from an SE in the wrecking yard that would be the way to go. I think the Police center caps run around $30 each if you have to buy them new. Might be more.

"Just Junk It LLC."
Member of the Sold SRT-8 Magnums of DI.net Club!
Perky Jerky for Everyone!!
Crazy Rons House of Mega Deals
Ronbo is offline  
post #14 of 61 (permalink) Old 10-12-2012, 12:35 AM Thread Starter
Intrepid Newbie
 
Dying Breed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 30
Feedback: 0 / 0%
 
Sadly, I've already looked through eBay, CL, and extensively through simple google search. I havent come up with a single seller of those center caps. I've got a feeling that dream is crushed. My local salvage yard doesnt have much of a chance of having them either.

I really appreciate the help though.
Dying Breed is offline  
post #15 of 61 (permalink) Old 10-12-2012, 12:40 AM Thread Starter
Intrepid Newbie
 
Dying Breed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 30
Feedback: 0 / 0%
 
I will get in touch with Shadow, then.

I was looking through the trep albums here on the site, and noticed that all the center caps were mounted on five spoke steelies rather than the oem ones.

Is there a significance?
Dying Breed is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the DodgeIntrepid.Net Forums - Dodge Intrepid, Concorde, 300m and Eagle Vision chat forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

Member names may only be composed of alpha-numeric characters. (A-Z and 0-9)

!!ATTENTION ADVERTISERS!! If you intend on advertising anything on this forum, whatsoever, you are required to first contact us here . Additionaly, we do NOT allow BUSINESS NAMES unless you are an Authorized Vendor. If you own a business, and want to do sales on this site via posting or private message, you will need to follow the rules. Shops, Stores, Distributors, Group Buys without being authorized will see your account terminated.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Linear Mode Linear Mode
Rate This Thread:



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome