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Hello Everyone. Names Scotty I'm 20 yrs old and very mechanically inclined with cars.

I own a 98 ES intrepid with the 3.2L. Mine is an early 98, so it was made in 97 for the 98 model year

Car runs great except it seems to take forever to warm up even in this mild weather up in omaha lately.

Coolant is fine and bled properly, it does reach full temp eventually at about 200 degrees.

I want to tackle the heater hose modification TSB... I have fully read it but I don't understand what is supposed to be changed in the heater hose.

Could somebody clear this up for me?
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Welcome aboard Scott! I'm not a 2nd gen guy, but wanted to welcome you aboard.

Taking forever to warm up generally means that t-stat is stuck open - have you observed any issues?
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I haven't observed any driveability problems or other issues. Temp gauge always ends up going to a little below the halfway mark on the temp gauge, but it just seems to take awhile.

Then again maybe I'm just used to my other ford contour i used to have, it warmed up very quick.

My work is about 7 miles away and its basically 3/4's interstate and 1/4 stop and go and takes about 12 mins. We've only had one really cold day so far and it took about halfway there to get some decent heat output
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Theremostat stuck open would eventually warm up - it will just take forever.
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Theremostat stuck open would eventually warm up - it will just take forever.
Ok, Ive had the car for about a year and it has roughly 125K miles on it. A thermostat is a cheap part and I would have no problem replacing it.

Has anyone tried the heater hose modification and/or is it worth the effort?
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Can you describe the 'mod' you refer to? I am not familiar with it. Someone will be along that does know - but just curious.
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Can you describe the 'mod' you refer to? I am not familiar with it. Someone will be along that does know - but just curious.
Its a TSB saying that a complaint of poor heater performance/slow engine warm up may be caused by incorrectly routed heater hoses... Its says to reroute them but the bulletin is very unclear as to how to reroute them.

This just came to my mind. On the BACK and bottom of the coolant reservoir there is a coolant hose going from it to the engine. I just noticed that this hose is kinked shut.. Its not the hose on the front but on the bottom left back of the bottle. Could this cause my problem??

Its like completely twisted, theres no way anything could flow thru that. I'll see if i can post a pic tomorrow
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I'd pressure check the cooling system and check the cap also. Many auto parts stores will lend a pressure tester.

A short term "fix" for the slow warmup is to partially block the radiator, but verify that the fans are working properly first.
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Its a TSB saying that a complaint of poor heater performance/slow engine warm up may be caused by incorrectly routed heater hoses... Its says to reroute them but the bulletin is very unclear as to how to reroute them.

This just came to my mind. On the BACK and bottom of the coolant reservoir there is a coolant hose going from it to the engine. I just noticed that this hose is kinked shut.. Its not the hose on the front but on the bottom left back of the bottle. Could this cause my problem??

Its like completely twisted, theres no way anything could flow thru that. I'll see if i can post a pic tomorrow

Hey Scott,

I am currently driving a 98 Concorde with the 3.2 and only 60k miles.

It doesn't seem to matter how many miles are on the car,
they always take a long time to warm up.

This morning at 40 degrees, it took a good five minutes for the needle to begin to move
and another five to reach the 1/4 mark.

BUT you need to check that hose that you think is kinked.
That hose is an important part of your coolant system.
It is the only link between your enigne and your coolant reservoir
If it has collapsed, you definitely need to replace it.
It is supposed to be a molded hose.

At 125k and 14 years old you are overdue for the water pump and timing belt replacement.
You need to check into that.
If you decide to do the wp/tb, you could replace the thermostat while you have it torn
down.

As for the TSB, I've heard lots of people talk about how cold blooded these cars are
but I've never heard anyone talk about re-routing their heater hoses.

You'll find lots of information here just looking around and getting familiar with the
search function.

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Do you have the number of that TSB?

My 3.2 was slow to warm up after I had an aftermarket t-stat put in with a timing belt water punp change. I recently replaced the t-stat with one from the dealer - warms up normally now. Always test a new t-stat on the stove with a pan of water and thermometer before installing.
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Alright guys..thanks for the info. I do plan on changing the water pump and timing belt together soon.

So far after owning this car for a year I absolutely love it. It has given me no problems at all. My OEM front struts failed when i bought it so I replaced them with Monroe's quick struts (I heard they have problems afterwards tho oops.) Only other thing i did was I replaced the rack & pinion due to excessive play in the steering wheel. I heard that this is a common issue with LH vehicles tho.

And for being a 98, the interior quality puts other 98 cars to shame...when I first looked inside I was like there's no way this is a 98

The TSB # is 24-14-98

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...The TSB # is 24-14-98
OK - thanks. My AllData account is on the VIN for my '99 2.7 (and not my '98 3.2), so that TSB doesn't come up for me. I was hoping to see what it said.
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