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When to replace timing belt/chain, water pump?

2001......3.2....67,000 miles

Is there a way of telling when these should be replaced?

What should it cost if a auto shop does the install? and while they are in there is there anything else that should be replaced at the same time to save money down the road?

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FWIW, Chrysler says 7 years or 105k miles.

Chains (applies to 2.7 only) - though many here have opinions, it's hard to say. The chain itself is seldom the problem, but the water pump can be, as well as the peripherals, like tensioner and guides/tensioner arm. Of course, though, if you're doing the water pump pre-emptively, arguably you should consider doing the chain. I waited until 207k miles to do my 2.7 chain, water pump, oil pump, and valve stem seals - water pump was as smooth as silk, no play, and not a speck of residue in the weep hole - but I'm a sample of one and may just have been lucky. But waiting on the belt for 3.2/3.5 is definitely *not* a worthwhile risk.

Jimbo - Back to your 3.2: Definitely also replace the timing belt tensioner pulley (bearings wear out). There is a hydraulic tensioner that only rarely gives problems. Many here tend to agree that you should replace that every 2nd timing belt change. Or if you want to be more sure and you think it's worth $50 to $100 more in parts cost, replace it every time you do the timing belt (of course always a risk that the new replacement could be shorter-lived than the original one with miles on it).

Also a good time to change both rad. hoses, the two accessory belts and their two (1 each) tensioner pulleys (again, their bearings wear out), and the t-stat (recommend OEM only, and test it in a pan of water on the stove before installing - sometimes they are bad right out of the box - they are a moderate PITA to R&R so you don't want a do-over).


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Jimbo - Back to your 3.2: Definitely also replace the timing belt tensioner pulley (bearings wear out). There is a hydraulic tensioner that only rarely gives problems. Many here tend to agree that you should replace that every 2nd timing belt change. Or if you want to be more sure and you think it's worth $50 to $100 more in parts cost, replace it every time you do the timing belt (of course always a risk that the new replacement could be shorter-lived than the original one with miles on it).

Also a good time to change both rad. hoses, the two accessory belts and their two (1 each) tensioner pulleys (again, their bearings wear out), and the t-stat (recommend OEM only, and test it in a pan of water on the stove before installing - sometimes they are bad right out of the box - they are a moderate PITA to R&R so you don't want a do-over).
Any idea what this would cost to get fixed at a auto shop? I did have one of the tensioner pulleys fixed not long ago, it was makinga ticking sound if I remember right, really quieted it down once they replaced it.
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If you have a shop do the TB/WP combo - you're looking at probably $600-$1100, depending on the shop.
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Any idea what this would cost to get fixed at a auto shop? I did have one of the tensioner pulleys fixed not long ago, it was makinga ticking sound if I remember right, really quieted it down once they replaced it.
I did most of what Peva quoted - WP/TB/tensioner along with drive belts, rad hoses, etc. and it cost ~$1500 at the Dodge dealer. That also included a PS flush and replacement to ATF+4 and oil/filter change with Mobil1.
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Whta kind of damage can you do if you wait until the timing belt breaks before fixing it? besides being stranded somewhere?
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Where are you located?

Who knows, you may be near someone that can help you out.

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Well, if that doesn't work out, maybe you'd be up for a trip to Zebulon, NC.

Southern Spring Meet, Zebulon, NC, April 27-29, 2012

There will plenty of guys there that'd love to get their hands on a 67k mile virgin 3.2.

Order the parts from Rock Auto, set the cruise and head south for the weekend.
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Well, if that doesn't work out, maybe you'd be up for a trip to Zebulon, NC.

Southern Spring Meet, Zebulon, NC, April 27-29, 2012

There will plenty of guys there that'd love to get their hands on a 67k mile virgin 3.2.

Order the parts from Rock Auto, set the cruise and head south for the weekend.
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Sounds like a great offer, what would they charge me if I was to make the trip?

I wouldn't have a clue though as to what parts to order? It would be great though to order them myself, most likely would save me some $$.

Yes, I don't have many miles on my car, I work close to home so that helps out alot. Are there any others on here with less miles then I have on a 2001?

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Charge you?!?!? Some of the guys would PAY YOU to work on them... Well, o.k... maybe not. Case of beer? Hand them tools? Tell good jokes and stories? Be a friend? Break bread with them and enjoy some good food?

As for parts, there is a kit available on eBay for all you need, OEM parts, like $350... maybe someone has a link?
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Are there any others on here with less miles then I have on a 2001?
You bet.

I sold my 02 Trep last fall; it only had 48k on it and I'm currently driving a 98 Concorde with 62k miles.

There's one in Canada that had less than 30k when he bought it last year.
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