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I'd suggest to get a cap wrench , which is basically a large metal or plastic
socket that fits over the end of the filter.
I'm not too familar with the Police duct work but the filter I'm running is about an
inch longer. The Napa # is a 1515. The Wix number is a 51515. Wix makes the Napa one.
And the Hastings # is a LF-115. If you want to stay with the stock length it's a 51085 wix
or 1085 Napa.

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...With that mount an anti drain back valve
doesn't do a thing. You only need one when the filter is mounted horizontal.
I don't believe that to be correct. The ADBV keeps the oil galleries from emptying regardless of filter orientation. Granted there's a lot more volume of oil that has to be pumped at startup if most of the oil filter needs to be refilled instead of just the galleries, but even with vertical filter, the ADBV serves an important purpose.

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I'd have to agree with that. The anti drain back valve would help in keeping
oil in the galleries.

LF115 Lube Filter

Hastings Premium Filters uses the industryís best practices and processes to manufacture high-efficiency filters which are strong enough to withstand the toughest operating conditions. While a filterís efficiency must typically be sacrificed to increase capacity, the LF115 excels in both contaminant removal efficiency and contaminant holding capacity.

The Hastings Design

The LF115 cellulose/glass blend media protects engines by trapping and holding contaminant particles and preventing them from entering vital engine parts.

The louvered centertube not only provides internal element support and strength, but also allows maximum flow. A steel coil spring maintains a constant load pressure, protecting engines, even during pressure surges.

A by-pass valve protects the engine in cold starts and highly restrictive conditions by making sure lubricants are distributed to vital engine parts. An anti-drainback valve keeps oil in the filter, preventing engine-destroying dry starts.

By combining these vital filter components, Hastings Premium Filters is able to provide superior lube filtration products for all filtration needs.
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I don't believe that to be correct. The ADBV keeps the oil galleries from emptying regardless of filter orientation. Granted there's a lot more volume of oil that has to be pumped at startup if most of the oil filter needs to be refilled instead of just the galleries, but even with vertical filter, the ADBV serves an important purpose.


Quote from Hastings tech service----

The purpose of the anti-drainback valve in the oil filter is too prevent the oil within the filter from draining out of the filter when the engine is shut down. The anti-drainback valve within the filter cannot effectively keep the galleys within the enegine full when the engine is shut down.


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The purpose of the anti-drainback valve in the oil filter is too prevent the oil within the filter from draining out of the filter when the engine is shut down. The anti-drainback valve within the filter cannot effectively keep the galleys within the enegine full when the engine is shut down.


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Tis be true, all the oil from the top to bottom all gets drained by gravity for the most part into the oil pan. Ever hear a Inline 6 Ford or Jeep shut down? You can listen and hear the sound of oil pouring back into the oil pan.
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I just started running mobil 1 synthetic with an oversized oil filter. I plan to run about 6k on it and go from there. Apparently according to mobil 1 themselves the oil is built to go around 15k.
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I just started running mobil 1 synthetic with an oversized oil filter. I plan to run about 6k on it and go from there. Apparently according to mobil 1 themselves the oil is built to go around 15k.


If it Mobil 1 or any other synthetic oil , the 15K would only be under these conditions.

- Strictly highway driving , 200 miles a day.
- Air filter change at 10K with zero dirt road miles
- An oil filter change at 7500 miles
- An oil anaylisis done at every 15k
- ect, ect.

Far from the average driver. Change it at 6k and you'll be good.
I'm not a huge Mobil 1 fan but I'd suggest to run the 0w40 if I was to use their product.
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I run Mobil 1 oil and Mobil 1 filter in mine and change filter every 5000 and top off and full change every 10000! I bought the car with 38000 on it and now have 207000.
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I run Mobil 1 oil and Mobil 1 filter in mine and change filter every 5000 and top off and full change every 10000! I bought the car with 38000 on it and now have 207000.

Thats great ! The most important thing here is that your looking the car over every 5000
miles , too many people try and go 7500 miles w/o even picking the hood.
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Thats great ! The most important thing here is that your looking the car over every 5000
miles , too many people try and go 7500 miles w/o even picking the hood.
I lift the hood every 2-3 days and check the oil because synthetic will leak where conventional wont and I look everything over!
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Quote from Hastings tech service----

The purpose of the anti-drainback valve in the oil filter is too prevent the oil within the filter from draining out of the filter when the engine is shut down. The anti-drainback valve within the filter cannot effectively keep the galleys within the enegine full when the engine is shut down.


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I guess that would be true: The crank bearings will slowly drip until the galleries are empty.

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Tis be true, all the oil from the top to bottom all gets drained by gravity for the most part into the oil pan. Ever hear a Inline 6 Ford or Jeep shut down? You can listen and hear the sound of oil pouring back into the oil pan.
I have to think that is more the oil pooled in the heads draining back thru the return galleries and off of the splashed areas than the much slower drip from the crank bearings (unless they are totally shot) - but I could be wrong (again!).

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A little off the subject but related too.
I was changing the oil in an Intrepid that my son bought
and the oil drain plug is a large plastic style like a radiator drain cock.
I've never seen one like this and I'm not very comfortable with the design.
It must be some sort of Lag bolt design as after you loosened it , it
would not come out of the hole. It has a rubber gasket that seals against the pan.
Maybe someone stripped the oil plug hole and put this in there.
I'd like to remove it but hate to have the inner part still in the oil pan.

Has anybody ever seen one like this ??

Dam car also had a POC mighty oil filter on it , the smaller LF-157 / 1348 style not
even reccomended for the car. Dam Quick lubes.

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A little off the subject but related too.
I was changing the oil in an Intrepid that my son bought
and the oil drain plug is a large plastic style like a radiator drain cock.
I've never seen one like this and I'm not very comfortable with the design.
It must be some sort of Lag bolt design as after you loosened it , it
would not come out of the hole. It has a rubber gasket that seals against the pan.
Maybe someone stripped the oil plug hole and put this in there.
I'd like to remove it but hate to have the inner part still in the oil pan.

Has anybody ever seen one like this ??...
I think you're talking about the one that is made like a toggle bolt on the inside. Dan (Daytrepper) swears by them - see post no. 5: Has anyone used one of these quick drain plugs?

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Thats what it looks like but it's some sort of Plastic / Nylon material.

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Would you use the LF115 on the the 2.7 engine or does this then stick out to far?

Never mind. Saw this post and decided to forget about it!

PSA on 2.7L's and Oversized Oil Filters

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