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Well I am sorry Nate but it seems that the Daytona at the yard has gone to the big road in the sky. I looked all over the yard 3 times and couldn't find it anywhere. it looks like they just purged a bunch of cars since I was there last and i think that was one of them.
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new hemi orange with black stock looking stripes would be a knockout.

But it is a shelby so mabe a bolder red.

It's got the off center turbo bulge in the hood, so most stripes aren't going to wok. My wife suggested a deep forest green, with white pinstriping/decals. That could look really good. I'd just like to paint it red again lol.

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Well I am sorry Nate but it seems that the Daytona at the yard has gone to the big road in the sky. I looked all over the yard 3 times and couldn't find it anywhere. it looks like they just purged a bunch of cars since I was there last and i think that was one of them.

Thanks for looking. I found some good stuff on my own trip today
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So it turns out (thank you mopar engineers!!) That the spare tire well of a 1993 Shadow is exactly the same as my Daytona's. They crushed the Shelby Z I was going to cut up, but this one is even better!!! Had to lift the back of the car with an engine hoist and reset it on the frame rails, as they had it proped up on a wheel right on the whell. Once that was done it was quick work with the saws all!

Little dented from the car sitting on it, nothing that can't be pounded out.



Some surface rust down in the bottom, but it's solid!!!


Also scored the spare tire cover board and I picked up the instrument cluster, if only just to have to play with later.



Super excited to get that tire well found!!
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It was always my impression that 90% of all cars of that vintage were based on each other, and that most things you would find very similar if not interchangeable... *chuckles* But that's mostly be being synical.

Looks like some good finds - Keep up the progress
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Hey Nate is the engine harness in a 1986 Dodge 600 turbo the same as your Daytona?
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Well I finally had a chance to drop the pan and poke around. No smoking gun. The screen on the oil pick up was a little nasty, but Oil still went throuhgh when I dumped some through, so I'm not convinced. The oil filer was actually rusty, so god knows how old it is, perhaps it had failed. there was certainly some sludge in the bottom.


Bottom of the motor looks nice and clean, no obvious problems that I can see. Pan was free of metal and was pretty clean overall.







hard to get a good picture, but the screen was pretty nasty.

Little WD40 and a toothbrush took care of the oil pick up screen


On to the oil pump. Spins very smooth, feels nice and tight. I might take it apart but I dunno, see for yourself - seems to be working fine.


So I'll poke around a bit more tomorrow, then I guess I'll just put it all back together and see what happens.

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looks pretty clean...pump looks good!
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That is very clean for a 23 year old engine. Any play in the connecting rods? is that ha magnet in the oil pan? I wonder why that is there.

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pan almost looks like it had water in it once
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Hey, I REALLY like that tool box! I hope by Art's meet I've got mine put back in good shape and ready for a road trip.

so, I wanna know - why did THIS YouTube video get associated with yours a related video?!??!?!



Nice test for the oil pump - what was your motor device?
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That is very clean for a 23 year old engine. Any play in the connecting rods? is that ha magnet in the oil pan? I wonder why that is there.
I'll give the rods a rattle tomorrow, thanks for reminding me. I didn't play oin the pan too much, I did notice that and gave it a poke. was just sudgey.

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pan almost looks like it had water in it once

I'll give it a good cleaning tomorrow and see what it look like. Oil didn't have any signs of water in it. This motor was allegedly rebuilt some time in the past, no records or timing, so I'm assuming that it didn't happen. Still, it is pretty damn clean!
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Hey, I REALLY like that tool box! I hope by Art's meet I've got mine put back in good shape and ready for a road trip.

so, I wanna know - why did THIS YouTube video get associated with yours a related video?!??!?!



Nice test for the oil pump - what was your motor device?
Tool chest is the standard crastsman 4 drawer socket set. Quite nce actually... as for the video, LOL... I dunno... some of those girls I wouldn't mind lubing up and taking for spin!



To spin the oil pump: I duct taped a rectangle metal bracket to a spade bit, put it in the cordless drill and gave her hell. Good for a couple hundred RPM anyway. As you could see, it put about 3 quarts of oil through in a few seconds, so I would think it's in good shape!
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The girls are cute, obviously SOMETHING was going on that the girl in white didn't want assocated with...

Anyway, yea, Craftsman first came out with the 180 piece in 3 drawers. A friend of mine in HS helped me do my first ever motor swap - a 2.5 in a 2m4 Fiero... as a thank you gift, my dad bought him that set. A few years later, I went and bought my set - I think mine is 192. Sears/Craftsman revised the tool chest and drawer arrangement about every 12-14 months, so no two kits are the same - but mine has seen LOTS of use. The only thing that has gone wrong with mine is that the handle has worn out on the top - the handle part pops out of the top shell of the case as I carry it. Gonna have to fix that one of these days, maybe.

Anyway, enough hijacking... Are you doing the motor work while it is in the body? Just taking it apart to investigate, or did it have a noise?
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Anyway, enough hijacking... Are you doing the motor work while it is in the body? Just taking it apart to investigate, or did it have a noise?
Previous owner said that the oil pressure was low which was why they stopped driving it. Suspected the oil pump but didn't want to deal anymore (he was working on a 69 duster) I turned it over at home and it had a pretty healthy knock. Didn't let it run very long as I wasn't sure how much oil was in it. So I figured I'd check out the bottom end, oil pump and pick up just to look for any obvious problems. Only takes 5 minutes to drop the pan on this thing.

Didn't find a smoking gun so I guess I'm hoping the filter was clogged, or that the grime on the pick up was restricting the flow enough to cause the problem. Heck, I could have been lied to and it has a legitimate knock and needs a rebuild.

I'll give it another hard look tomorrow, put it back together and see what happens.
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