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Installing XM Radio in an RB1

I've just purchased an RB1 for my 2001 Trep ES. Now it seems easy enough to hook up, but I have questions about it:

I will need the adapter kit for installing 02+ radios into my 01.



The back of the RB1 has a 22 pin port. Will the 22 pin end of the above cable suck up that whole port? Sounds like a duh of course question, but I just want to make sure. Next, what is that PCI connector cable? I've never seen the back of my current radio, is there a connector back there that this plugs into?

Now the big problem. I have an XM Roady2 satellite radio. While I am doing the install of the RB1 I want to properly hook up the Roady2 in the car, with no wires hanging loose. I have a mounting kit for it and I think I know how to get power for it behind the dash. The big issue is how to get the sound output working properly. It has a built in FM modulator, but it sounds so-so and don't like it. It has a cassette adaptor, but the RB1 has no cassette. I want to hard wire the Roady2 into the RB1. There are the PIE adaptors from www.pie.net that hook up the Roady2 into the cd changer control of a stereo. But I've been told by PIE that it is not compatible with the RB1.

So what can I now do? The RB1 has an aux button, what it is used for? Has anyone done an install like this and know of some kind of adaptor I can get to hook these 2 devices together?

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the PCI connector attaches to the pink wire, this is the speed sensor lead

the AUX button is for connection an OEM mopar changer or Sirius setup, the only way to hook up your XM will probably be a modulator
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Personally I'd sell the Roady and get a RB1 compatible Sirius receiver. That way you can controll the sat radio from the RB1 and you'll get the station and plyalist info on-screen. The list price for the receiver and an install kit is around $300-.

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Yes the 22-pin plug on the adapter will fill the entire 22-pin plug on the back of the RB1. There should be a single purple/yellow wire in its own plug on the back of your current radio. Just plug those two together. It's what provides steering wheel control if you have it and will provide info to the RB1 from the car's computer computer.

As for the Rhody, I'm not sure why the PIE module wouldn't be compatible with the RB1. I believe the CD changer cable also changed in '02, but there should be an adapter for it as well. I don't see why the PIE module wouldn't work if you had that adapter...

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Personally I'd sell the Roady and get a RB1 compatible Sirius receiver. That way you can controll the sat radio from the RB1 and you'll get the station and plyalist info on-screen. The list price for the receiver and an install kit is around $300-.

That means he would have to drop XM and go Sirius. Not for nothing... but XM is a superior service over Sirius. I wouldn't care for dropping my XM to go Sirius.

I have this same dilema on the Liberty. I have a Skifi that I want to hook into the Liberty RBQ radio. But I haven't decided on how I want to accomplish this yet.
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Yes there is also a cd changer adaptor I could get. But I don't see where it plugs in to. I don't have a cd changer with my car.

That's why I was asking if all 22 pins were in use with the adaptor cable. I emailed PIE and they said their cable was not compatible with the RB1. Here is the description of the PIE cable:

Auxiliary input converters by Precision Interface Electronics are designed to convert the CD changer port of the OEM radio (with CD changer controls) into auxiliary input. Devices such as DVD, VCR, MP3, iPOD, Video Game Systems, and Satellite Radio can be added to the OEM radio without FM modulation. DXP technology maintains full function of all factory built-in steering wheel and rear seat controls. Note: It is crucial that you refer to the P.I.E. DPX protocol converter application guide for special notes and details on each specific vehicle. Applicable years vary depending on the model of the vehicle.

I don't have a pic to post of the PIE adaptor yet(I can when I get home), but it is a cable with 2 RCA connectors at one end and some kind of pin connector at the other. I just don't see where the hell it would connect to the RB1. The RB1 is cd changer compatible, so it should work, I just don't know how.

I don't want to go Sirius as I love XM better. I'll look into Sirius again, but doubt if I am going to change
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There should be another DIN plug on the back of the RB1 for the changer to connect to. If the CD changer adapter cable will go between that DIN plug and the PIE unit, I don't see why it wouldn't work. If an older changer can be adapter to the new headunit, I don't see why the PIE unit couldn't be done the same way...
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This is the back of the RB1. If someone wants to hook up a cd changer to it, where does it go? As said above, all 22 pins are being used from the cables to hook it up to the car.

I've read in forums elsewhere that if you do somehow hook up a PIE adaptor to the RB1, when you switch over to aux it says something like 'no disc'.
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OK, you got me. I have no idea where the changer plugs in. My guess is that is supposed to plug into C2. But like you said, if the 22-pin plug takes up C1 and C2 then it won't work. I know JoeKD has the adapter kit and the changer plugged in so hopefully he can answer this one...
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A CD changer goes into the RB1 via a 'junction box' that is included with the changer install kit. The same junction box also enables the connection of the sat radio receiver.
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Ummmm what is this junction box and what is a cd changer install kit? And how would the whole thing hook up together?

I don't want a cd changer, I just want to be able to hook up my sat radio properly.
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the cd changer plugs into the "C2" plug on the RB1. The PIE adapter should plug in there.
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the cd changer plugs into the "C2" plug on the RB1. The PIE adapter should plug in there.
OK, that makes sense. But if it plugs into C2, does that adapter in the first post only plug into C1? If so, their picture descriptions are wrong. It can't be a 12-pin and 10-pin connector on the radio and a 22-pin connector on the adpater harness...
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Have you actually tried using the Roady for FM modulation? I have heard plenty of people say the quality is quite good.

I am probably going to get the Delphi MyFi (the first portable radio). That has a built-in FM Modulator and I will take it with me whenever I drive the Jeep. Talk about having no wires... since it runs on battery... i shouldn't need a single wire period. It also the first device with a built-in antenna.

http://www.xm411.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=7488
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Right. It does make sense the cd changer would plug into C2. But the first picture I posted shows the one end of the adaptor as being a 22 pin, which would eat up both C1 and C2. So is that cable in the first picture only 12 pins at the one end?

I am going to order the adaptor kit on Thursday.

Even if that cable above is only 12 pins, and the PIE adaptor is 10 pins, and everything seems to hook up nicely, it still doesn't explain why PIE themselves say their cable won't work with the RB1. I will email them again and see what they say.

DJPILL - I am currently using the FM modulation to get sound, and the sound quality is acceptable. The problem is when I travel to larger cities like Montreal or Toronto, most of the FM frequencies are used up and I can't listen to satellite radio at all. The Roady2 only has 6 or 8 possible FM frequencies you can select from. And on a long road trip I have to switch frequencies, ummmm, frequently, as I come and go from various cities, and that's a big pain in the ass. I want it hardwired in so I don't have to fidget with the radio anymore.

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