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I.O.D. Fuse?

Further to my battery problem (now resolved) I see reference to the "Ignition Off Draw" fuse in my FSM but cannot locate said fuse. I'd like to pull it since the car is off the road till spring. Anyone?
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Do you mean the fuse that when properly selected/positioned allows you to have power to the cigarette lighter outlet? If so, this is position 15(?) in the upper right of the fuse panel located near the hinge of the driver's door.
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When I store the M for the winter I just pull the negative battery cable off the stud on the passenger side strut tower. That way you're sure that there is no drain.
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Do you mean the fuse that when properly selected/positioned allows you to have power to the cigarette lighter outlet? If so, this is position 15(?) in the upper right of the fuse panel located near the hinge of the driver's door.
No, I saw that one and I don't think that's it. Steph, I would normally just do that (neg. disconnect) but I want to be able to just unplug the battery tender and move the car on short notice. I realize the tender will cover the Ign. Off draw but just thought popping that fuse couldn't hurt.
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You'll be looking in the engine bay fuse compartment for an interior feed. The clock and the radio are probably the worst users. But there's also the security system that will drain the battery pretty quick.
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The IOD fuse is Fuse 19 (located behind driver's side dash end cap). You'll see "M1" referred to by the FSM when discussing IOD. M1 is the circuit that Fuse 19 powers. If you look in the schematics, you'll see the M1 label on the wires downstream of Fuse 19. The FSM was written sloppily and confuses people on the subject of IOD by referring to M1 instead of Fuse 19.

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It confused me, I looked at it real quick and couldn't figure out what went where! lol
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IOD, Ignition Off Draw fuse was originally intended for exactly this use. The factory ships or, used to ship LH models with this fuse unplugged. It knocks out most accessories including the dome light and radio. It was something the dealers could easily pull for cars they expected to have in long term inventory. With the fuse unplugged, the batteries would have a longer lot life.
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IOD, Ignition Off Draw fuse was originally intended for exactly this use. The factory ships or, used to ship LH models with this fuse unplugged. It knocks out most accessories including the dome light and radio. It was something the dealers could easily pull for cars they expected to have in long term inventory. With the fuse unplugged, the batteries would have a longer lot life.
That's pretty much the same info I had rattling around in the old memory bank. Thanks for finding it
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That's pretty much the same info I had rattling around in the old memory bank. Thanks for finding it
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Things have changed a bit since then. Nowadays, they have this addressed by the factory as "Ship Mode". Nearly all the vehicles are now shipped this way and display the words "Ship Mode" on the dash. Once taken out of this mode via a scan tool or some sequence of buttons on the center stack, I believe it is permanent. I haven't tried to put one back yet.
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Things have changed a bit since then. Nowadays, they have this addressed by the factory as "Ship Mode". Nearly all the vehicles are now shipped this way and display the words "Ship Mode" on the dash. Once taken out of this mode via a scan tool or some sequence of buttons on the center stack, I believe it is permanent. I haven't tried to put one back yet.
Are you suggesting this is/was a RAM code set at the factory as opposed to a physical circuit disconnect or pulled fuse? (BTW, I looked at the M-1 circuit and I agree the manual is poorly written - at least regarding this item)
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Are you suggesting this is/was a RAM code set at the factory as opposed to a physical circuit disconnect or pulled fuse? (BTW, I looked at the M-1 circuit and I agree the manual is poorly written - at least regarding this item)
Nope! and Yep! I'm just rambling about the way things are done today as opposed to how it was back when the LH was built. Back then, you could pull the IOD fuse and keep the battery from discharging in a couple days by a careless salesman who didn't check to see if he turned out all the lights/accessories.

A new dodge must be removed from ship mode in order to see the mileage and other functions as well. However, I haven't tried to put one back in ship mode before returning it to inventory. It has never been asked.
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...Back then, you could pull the IOD fuse and keep the battery from discharging in a couple days by a careless salesman who didn't check to see if he turned out all the lights/accessories...
I was thinking it's main purpose was to prevent gradual discharge of the battery due to the 5 to 25 or 35 (depending on year) mA IOD while the car was in transit from factory to dealer, as well as time sitting in storage lots (in times of market glut). The FSM says it should be pulled if car is to be unused for approx. 20 days. (FWIW, 25mA over 20 days would represent 12 A-hrs. energy drain - roughly 1/3 to 1/4 of battery capacity.)
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I was thinking it's main purpose was to prevent gradual discharge of the battery due to the 5 to 25 or 35 (depending on year) mA IOD while the car was in transit from factory to dealer, as well as time sitting in storage lots (in times of market glut). The FSM says it should be pulled if car is to be unused for approx. 20 days. (FWIW, 25mA over 20 days would represent 12 A-hrs. energy drain - roughly 1/3 to 1/4 of battery capacity.)
That could very well be the case Bill.

It is/was one of the checklisted items on a P.D.I. inspection to remove the IOD after completing the inspection and before putting the car back in inventory.

However, as Steph pointed out, on the LH it's just as easy to carry a 15mm wrench and disconnect the negative terminal at the tower. The terminal end even has a plastic loop to keep the end from dropping and making contact elsewhere on all the 2nd gens.
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Is it correct to say that with the IOD fuse pulled, the car can be driven to pull it onto and off of transport vehicles and otherwise moved around? If true, the fuse can literally be left out from factory to dealer prep. Not so with the neg. jump post connection - that would have to be reconnected and disconnected each and every time the car needed to be moved for whatever reason.
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