HELP on OTIS QUICK!! [Archive] - DodgeIntrepid.Net Forums - Dodge Intrepid, Concorde, 300m and Eagle Vision chat

: HELP on OTIS QUICK!!


DMAG
01-02-2002, 02:19 PM
Hey, I'm calling a junkyard that has a 300M OTIS. I told them I also need the harness, I just want to be able to tell them how it runs down from the ceiling so they can give me the harness as well as the OTIS... does it run down the driver's A-pillar to the body computer in the kick panel from the factory?

Thanks!

DMAG
01-02-2002, 02:26 PM
Nevermind, just found it on another post. I just ordered it for $75.00 from a junkyard in TN.

The guy on the phone told me has another one. So if anyone wants one, give me a yell and I'll give you his email address/phone #. It is from a 300M.

[ January 02, 2002: Message edited by: Intrepidatious ]

JigSawMan
01-02-2002, 02:32 PM
I'm interested! Could you send his contact info to me?

DjPiLL
01-02-2002, 02:40 PM
Intrepidatious:

Did you manage to get the harness with your OTIS? The harness looks INVOLVED.... meaning installing this without the harness would be "fun" to say the least. :-) Tons of connectors to plug in.

When are you installing your OTIS? Let me know I want to head out to you and watch you put it in. :-) Im gonna need some help with mine. :-)

DMAG
01-02-2002, 02:43 PM
The guy said he is shipping it out tomorrow via UPS. So I probably won't get it until early next week (??) So maybe next weekend you can come over here or I can come out there and we can hook them up together?

DMAG
01-02-2002, 02:44 PM
JigSawMan, I will email you his info.

DjPiLL
01-02-2002, 02:46 PM
Sweet. Did you get a wiring harness to go with it? Also do you know what color yours is?

I would assume that even though it came from a 300M... its an OTIS cause the OTIX (or EVIC whatever u call it) that has the Menu button, i am not sure that one would work on your SE.

mlfca
01-02-2002, 02:49 PM
Originally posted by Intrepidatious:
Nevermind, just found it on another post. I just ordered it for $75.00 from a junkyard in TN.

The guy on the phone told me has another one. So if anyone wants one, give me a yell and I'll give you his email address/phone #. It is from a 300M.

[ January 02, 2002: Message edited by: Intrepidatious ]


Any chance he has a third?

DMAG
01-02-2002, 02:56 PM
From what everyone says, it shouldn't matter what engne you have...it goes by the calculations that are made via the PCI bus. The guy said he would send me the harness, so hopefully that will make life easy.

The harness should only have 4 wires or so shouldn't it? There's a power a ground and a wire for the PCI Bus. And probably a seperate wire for the lights? All the functions for the OTIS should be running through the PCI Bus wire right?

Also, one other question...does the outside temp run through the ambient air temperature sensor in the engine compartment or is it a seperate one just for the OTIS? My brother told me the newer one's (I don't know if he meant 2000 and up or just 2nd Gen) uses the ambient air temp sensor that is used for the engine and does not use a seperate one specifically for the OTIS Again, if all calulations are done via the PCI Bus, I don't think it has a seperate one.

??? :confused:

Also, if anyone is interested, I am selling my Gentex compass mirror in the "Sell Your Stuff" Section. I don't need it anymore. :)

DMAG
01-02-2002, 02:59 PM
Oh, sorry DJ...the color is tan. I think they are all tan since we all have tan headliners....right?

Sorry mlfca...he said he only had 2. But here's number for you to call: (800) 456-8144. I just got an email from these people at S&J Used Auto Parts in Saratoga Springs, NY. They say they have the part, but didn't quote anything on the email for a price. Good Luck! :)

[ January 02, 2002: Message edited by: Intrepidatious ]

mlfca
01-02-2002, 03:11 PM
Originally posted by Intrepidatious:
Oh, sorry DJ...the color is tan. I think they are all tan since we all have tan headliners....right?

Sorry mlfca...he said he only had 2. But here's number for you to call: (800) 456-8144. I just got an email from these people at S&J Used Auto Parts in Saratoga Springs, NY. They say they have the part, but didn't quote anything on the email for a price. Good Luck! :)

[ January 02, 2002: Message edited by: Intrepidatious ]

They were B.S-ing you they said they did not have that part. I was on hold for 10 min, tool's.

Thanks for the leed.

IntrepidXJ
01-02-2002, 03:12 PM
Originally posted by Intrepidatious:
Oh, sorry DJ...the color is tan. I think they are all tan since we all have tan headliners....right?



My 98 had a black on. I think they only used that color in 98, though.
http://pictures.dodgeintrepid.net/intrepid98/console.jpg

DMAG
01-02-2002, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by mlfca:
They were B.S-ing you they said they did not have that part. I was on hold for 10 min, tool's.

Thanks for the leed.

Wow...it was a form email they sent...They probably just reply to any request that is made saying "they have the part". Sorry! :(

I made alot of requests, if anything else comes up, I'll let you know first.

[ January 02, 2002: Message edited by: Intrepidatious ]

DMAG
01-02-2002, 03:14 PM
Originally posted by Intrepid99:
My 98 had a black on. I think they only used that color in 98, though.
http://pictures.dodgeintrepid.net/intrepid98/console.jpg

That would be fine also actually...as long as it isn't like blue or something! :)

DjPiLL
01-02-2002, 03:15 PM
Isnt my headliner like a grey? I dunno i guess it doesnt really matter.

And about the engine... it doesnt matter what engine you have... but I know the only way you can get an EVIC to work with all the special features is to install it on a 2001 R/T. Something about the computer was changed on the '01 line... I believe Otto said this a few months back, but i am not sure. I guess I never really paid too much attention on what works and what doesnt cause i have the 01 R/T and I know i can use any console out there.

DMAG
01-02-2002, 03:17 PM
OH...well, I believe he said it is out of a '99 300M, so no worries hopefully. :)

You free next weekend? I'll bring the beer. ;)

DjPiLL
01-02-2002, 03:24 PM
Hah, since you are helping me out... ill supply the beer. Yeah next weekend I am free. Ive had this thing sitting in the back seat of my car for the past month, it would be nice to finally install it. :-)

Besides, if it doesnt work... you could probably ebay the console and get 3x what you paid for it. ;)

DMAG
01-02-2002, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by DjPiLL:
Hah, since you are helping me out... ill supply the beer. Yeah next weekend I am free. Ive had this thing sitting in the back seat of my car for the past month, it would be nice to finally install it. :-)

Besides, if it doesnt work... you could probably ebay the console and get 3x what you paid for it. ;)

Oh so true! :D

MadTxn
01-02-2002, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by DjPiLL:
...but I know the only way you can get an EVIC to work with all the special features is to install it on a 2001 R/T. Something about the computer was changed on the '01 line...

Actually, Don's car is a 2000 (right?), and his fancy pants one works...

DjPiLL
01-02-2002, 03:48 PM
I thought Don had a 2001.

MadTxn
01-02-2002, 04:02 PM
Well looky there, you're right... Reading is Fundamental...

JigSawMan
01-02-2002, 04:07 PM
Intrepidatious:
Thanks! I can't wait to order it!

Paul's 96 Trep
01-02-2002, 09:37 PM
hey where in TN is he/the yard?
I live here in Knoxville area.. email or reply back here.. thx! :D

Don Hardy
01-03-2002, 02:49 AM
Too cool! Saw my name several times with no swear words attached! Yep, 2001. And I do believe that Otto did say the body computer or whatever controls all that electrical stuff changed in '01.

ottowrkr
01-03-2002, 09:23 AM
The Otis /Evic only uses 4 wires but you also have to use the wires that give power to your overhead lights and sunroof controls if you have the sunroof. So you have a few more wires to figure out.As for the temp sensor it uses the sensor that is on the front bumper beam under the fascia.Also the newer Evic 01-02 will work on 97 -00 cars(MPG,DTE,TEMP,ETC this stuff will work) but the stuff in menu options will not, so you cant change the user settings.So if you get one with the menu button not the step button beware.The body controller was changed in 01 thats why it wont work,and you cant put the 01-02 body controller on an older car. .

[ January 03, 2002: Message edited by: ottowrkr ]

sURFNmADNESS
01-09-2002, 03:49 PM
umm,

dumb question time. So if one of these fails in a car or is damaged in an accident, your local Dodge dealer can not get a replacement part? They have to rely on a junked out one? If there is a replacement part from the dealer, how much is it? I would gladly pay $300 for a new from the factory, built to work with my model unit.

sURFN :confused:

IntrepidXJ
01-09-2002, 03:53 PM
You can get them from the dealer. However, I guarantee you it will be well over $300!! If I remember correctly, mI thought someone here priced them a while back and said the dealer wanted close to $1000??? Don't quote me on that, I'll try and find out for sure...

IntrepidXJ
01-09-2002, 04:02 PM
Looks like I may have been wrong:

http://www.oem-car-parts.com/

Has them for:

$164.43 no sunroof
$182.70 with sunroof

Go to browse Collision catalog for Dodge Intrepid, choose console, followed by overhead console, followed by overhead console again.

I have ordered 2 items from this place, and they do a very good job :) They also have a return policy!

I also looked thru 300m, but could not find the EVIC :(

DMAG
01-09-2002, 04:37 PM
That's not a horrible deal. What's the retainer? Is that the bezel? Or do I need something to hold this thing to the roof? I thought the bracket came on all LH's?

Thrasher
01-09-2002, 08:36 PM
the bracket is already up there, (it's holding yer lights u have now!) u just need to cut it down to make the console fit....maybe i ought to take me down and grab pix for yall...

DMAG
01-10-2002, 06:20 AM
You have to cut the bracket? Is it made of metal or plastic? How much do you have to cut?

So many questions... :)

Thrasher
01-10-2002, 06:59 AM
no, no nede to cut the bracket, u need to cut yer headliner :)sorry i wasn't clear on that

DMAG
01-10-2002, 07:29 AM
Cool Deal....thanks! :)

DjPiLL
01-10-2002, 09:56 AM
Thrasher:

How bout some pics!!!! PICS! PICS! PICS!

Heheheheh since you seem to be the resident expert here. :-)

sURFNmADNESS
01-10-2002, 11:26 AM
Thanks Intrepid99,

That is the type of answer I was hoping someone would come up with. $184 for my 98's overhead without sunroof. I tried to find an electrical listing for wiring for this device but do not see one so I am hoping the unit comes with it. I will order one tonight and let you guys know what I get.

followup: I went one screen back and found a wiring harness for this for $18.14. I dont think this is the long one back to the computer though. I did find a longer one listed under roof, sunroof. Looks like it has multiple plugs shown. I should only have to use the ones for the console. No choice in shipping so no chance to express ship it.

sURFN :D

[ January 10, 2002: Message edited by: sURFNmADNESS ]

DMAG
01-10-2002, 02:47 PM
Careful on that wiring harness for $18.00, make you sure you look at the picture, I believe that's just the harness for the lights in the console that surrounds the OTIS.

I just remember that from looking yesterday, you may be talking about something totally different though. :)

Rick W
01-10-2002, 03:21 PM
sURFNmADNESS - Careful. I believe the harness on the page is only for the lights. I've submitted a question to them to verify.

sURFNmADNESS
01-10-2002, 03:27 PM
yeah,

I updated my message from before. I did find a longer one under roof, sunroof, wireharness. Although I do not have a sunroof, it looks like this one will have all the wires for the console too.

I also wrote to them but have not received an answer yet.

BTW, check out the price of the sunroof components. Looks like if you wanted to add a factory one, your looking at over $1000, OUCH!

sURFN

[ January 10, 2002: Message edited by: sURFNmADNESS ]

Thrasher
01-10-2002, 03:57 PM
if u want the whole entire console w/harness and sunroof controls and all, yer looking at over a grand, (I went thru this with the dealer a while back...)..

on another note..I just called the dealer, just for an EVIC only, it's 392 bux, no console, no harness, no nothin, just the EVIC itself....which i am now considering..and dump my OTIS.

for those with sunroofs, u can pick up a console without sunroof controls and add yer existing ones...I did...it's simple. a no brainer, all is required, a dremel or some small cutting tool to cut a hole in the console to pop yer switches in.. since u already have them, why buy em again?something to consider...

IntrepidXJ
01-10-2002, 04:20 PM
Originally posted by Thrasher:
on another note..I just called the dealer, just for an EVIC only, it's 392 bux, no console, no harness, no nothin, just the EVIC itself....which i am now considering..and dump my OTIS.


Too bad the EVIC won't work in my 99, would've been something to consider....

That's OK, though. I'm happy with just the OTIS :)

Rick W
01-10-2002, 04:50 PM
OK......now I have another question for the guys at oem-car-parts.com (http://www.oem-car-parts.com/). Since I searched on a 2001 Intrepid (or 300M for that matter), does $182 get me an OTIS or EVIC? Anyone have the incremental functions in the EVIC?

[ January 10, 2002: Message edited by: Rick W ]

[ January 10, 2002: Message edited by: Rick W ]

Rick W
01-10-2002, 06:23 PM
sURFNmADNESS - the harness does not look right. I poped my light/sunroof console down while driving home tonight and their harness looks like what I have now.

sURFNmADNESS
01-10-2002, 06:53 PM
And now for the bad news,

I did get a response from what we was hoping was NOT the answer.....

From:
"mydodgeparts.com" <mydodgeparts@mydodgeparts.com>
To:
<surfnmadness>


the console listed is withOUT any compass or electronics. Sounds like you
are trying to add a compass to your vehicle. Not going to say it can't be
done, but is very costly and sometimes difficult. Not all vehicles pre-wired
for the computer. would need ambient sensor also.

DAM DAM DAM. Cancelled the order......<sigh>

sURFN :(

[ January 10, 2002: Message edited by: sURFNmADNESS ]

[ January 11, 2002: Message edited by: sURFNmADNESS ]