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: RB1 Software Update


GR8WHT
08-09-2004, 05:23 PM
Just a note for everyone with the RB1 Nav radio.

If you upgrade to the new release of software, the time will be displayed when the radio is off. A nice improvment!!.

JoeKD
08-09-2004, 06:55 PM
so then there is firmware upgrades and the lady at Navtech was wrong when she said it was maps only

Steve, are there any other firmware updates that you have noticed?

GR8WHT
08-09-2004, 09:45 PM
I noticed the colors seemed brighter on the maps, and the radio itself seems to operate more smoothly and the font changes a bit cause its easier to read, could be contrast.

It always bothered me that when the RB1 was off, it was a blank screen, now its usefull all the time because when its off, you get a clock.

when you first insert the new DVD, the display comes up with a message that its upgrading firmware, do not power cycle at this time, so it does upgrade the entire radio operating system.

Is it worth the money, maybe, but if you have the free upgrade coupon, then yes get it.
I have noticed the SAT stations switch quicker.

JoeKD
08-09-2004, 10:05 PM
It always bothered me that when the RB1 was off, it was a blank screen, now its usefull all the time because when its off, you get a clock

to be honest I never really noticed it till my wife complained about it one day

Thanks for the info, I don't have an upgrade coupon so it would be $150.00 for me. I'm just a bit ticked that I talked to Navtech last week regarding the release and the girl said there were no firmware upgrades at all with this DVD.

tx2002intrep
08-10-2004, 02:35 PM
That would be nice to be able to see a clock with the radio off. But...........I'm going to hold out until I know there are no errors with this update. Last time......us Texans got screwed around. :D

-- Dave

dodint
08-24-2004, 01:54 AM
No way this is worth $150.

I'll wait for the next full release.

Anyone have any ideas when that'll be? I'd also like to know how long they'll keep making firware updates for the RB1. AFAIK, it's only living on in the Grand Caravan.

tx2002intrep
08-24-2004, 05:23 PM
I believe new updates are done yearly around mid year. There are times they have running changes during the year, if they need to correct errors found on the previous release. But, I also believe that every release is $150. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

-- Dave

'98-ESer
08-24-2004, 09:30 PM
Jeez....

Time to consider a cheap-o laptop with a 10" screen, a minimal install of 'some kind of windows', PocketMap Navigator (or pick your WinTel GPS software of choice), a swing-arm kind of mount, and a decent a GPS card.

I know that I could build a laptop-based in-car GPS mapper for about $800, all inclusive. Oh, *and* you'll be able to play DVDs with the laptop too.

dodint
08-25-2004, 12:36 AM
Jeez....

Time to consider a cheap-o laptop with a 10" screen, a minimal install of 'some kind of windows', PocketMap Navigator (or pick your WinTel GPS software of choice), a swing-arm kind of mount, and a decent a GPS card.

I know that I could build a laptop-based in-car GPS mapper for about $800, all inclusive. Oh, *and* you'll be able to play DVDs with the laptop too.

Really? Is it going to fit flush mount into the dash, turn on with the car, and command through the cars sound system?

If we wanted some huge tacky screen, we would've bought one.


tex,

Yeah, you're right. But, with the RB1 being phased out, it makes you wonder how long Navteq will continue to make RB1 specific upgrades. I'm hoping for at least 5 years.

tx2002intrep
08-25-2004, 09:03 AM
Yeah, I'm hoping *at least* that long. Would be a shame to have spent that much money only to be phased out so soon, and no longer be able to get updates.

-- Dave

dodint
08-25-2004, 12:36 PM
I'm thinking that someday it will be no more firmware upgrades, but the maps will become more and more updated/detailed until NavTeq gets out of the business. They make like %80 of all automotive Nav system databases right now. That wouldn't be a terrible compromise.

dbaudiopro
08-25-2004, 02:13 PM
I think dodint has the right thinking. Firmware will probably be supported/upgraded as long as DC decides to do it. But the map database itself will likely continue to be supported...

GR8WHT
08-25-2004, 02:42 PM
According to Nav-Tech, the DVD for the new Nav systems is the same DVD, so we should be getting updates for years to come.

dodint
08-25-2004, 02:48 PM
I'd be interested to know how that works, since the Nav units are very different. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just curious. Maybe it'll have two sets of firmware on it or something.

tx2002intrep
08-25-2004, 03:32 PM
Yeah, it will be interesting to say the least. Guess all we can do is sit, wait and see how things end up going for this. I'm sure there's only so much firmware updating that they can do, but maps will end up needing to be updated all the time with new roads/business', etc. I guess time will tell.

-- Dave

JoeKD
08-25-2004, 03:37 PM
the new nav units have expanded features such as the ability to setup an itinerary instead of just one point to point trip, if the firmware enables this I will pick it up in a heartbeat

GR8WHT
08-25-2004, 04:26 PM
Sorry Joe, it does not do that.
They explained to me that the head unit reads the disk, loads the appropriate firmware depending on headunit and goes from there.
For example, the new nav units have 3-D icons, but they are only 2 D on the RB1.

One thing they did add, is when its navigating you, and you are comming up to a freeway exit, it now along with displaying the direction of the exit, it displays the exit # of the highway as well. Very nice if you have multipule exits and its hard to tell which one it is.

JoeKD
08-25-2004, 04:28 PM
One thing they did add, is when its navigating you, and you are comming up to a freeway exit, it now along with displaying the direction of the exit, it displays the exit # of the highway as well. Very nice if you have multiple exits and its hard to tell which one it is.

odd, mine did that with the last DVD, it would show the exit number (if it knew it) in a small box above the turn indicator

dodint
08-25-2004, 04:53 PM
Yeah. Mine does that too.

But, ironically, here in PA the exits numbers all changed a few years ago and the database hasn't caught up yet.

tx2002intrep
08-26-2004, 09:24 AM
Weird, I haven't noticed that with mine, and I have the "AA" release. *shrugs shoulders*

-- Dave

tx2002intrep
08-27-2004, 04:06 PM
well, www.wjjeeps.com has updated their update discs section, and according to them, this latest dvd ("AC" release) was just an interim release, and not a full blown full database upgrade. Biggest change being just adding the clock when you turn the radio off.

I think I'm going to go with dodint on this one, and hold off until they come out with a whole new database revision before spending $150.

-- Dave

dodint
08-27-2004, 05:04 PM
What the hell is a "2004 Version RB1"?

It has a seperate part number and everything.

tx2002intrep
08-28-2004, 12:51 PM
good question, I was wondering that also as well. I thought they were all the same.

-- Dave

pyuphoria
09-03-2004, 12:06 PM
Can I use a Mopar RB1 Nav radio in my 2000 SE Intrepid?

pyuphoria
09-03-2004, 12:12 PM
and if so how?

tx2002intrep
09-03-2004, 04:55 PM
Can I use a Mopar RB1 Nav radio in my 2000 SE Intrepid?

pyuphoria, welcome to the boards, fellow Texan!!

Yes, you can use the RB1 in your 2000. It will come with the head unit, map dvd, and gps antenna that plugs in the back of the headunit, and you mount it somewhere under the dash.

But..........since you have a 2000, you will have to get the wire harness adapter that will allow you to hook it up to the stock harness. 1998-2001 had 2 plug harness that plugs into the radio, 2002-2004 has one plug. The RB1 is made for the 1 plug harness. You can get them from your dealer for around $25-$30, and the part # is 82207541. Check out www.wjjeeps.com/nav.htm for more info.

-- Dave

dodint
09-04-2004, 01:48 PM
My local stereo shop also carries that harness for about the same price, if you're not near a dealer.

300Michael
09-05-2004, 10:09 PM
Pyuphoria, I have a RB-1 hooked up to my 99 300m. I had to purchase the adaptor ($27) and But check around some dealers sell it for less then $20.

300Michael
09-05-2004, 10:12 PM
Joe, the only Nav that will do itineraries is the Alpine unit. I like that function, plus it allows me to add it in during a trip.

mnitetrain
09-06-2004, 08:37 PM
My rb1 is 2004 kit 82208715AB and head unit is P56038629AE--part label on package show date 10/13/03. Installed in 01 M works fine however do have AM/FM reception problems (lots of static) will change out plugs to see if that might help. Nav functions fine and does have 10 stop itinerary-CD/CD Changer works fine/.. Soooo 2004 appear to work with the adapter harness on older LH's unless the static issue has to do with the newer 04-05 canam bus. But I do beleive static is antenna/ground problem in my car.

dkm
09-14-2004, 04:03 PM
What the hell is a "2004 Version RB1"?

It has a seperate part number and everything.
It is the same as the "2003 Version" They now have the REC out for the 2005 Magnum, 300, Dakota, and Grand Cherokee. That may be what they are calling the 2004 version. The REC is for the CAN bus vehicles only.

DScruggs
10-07-2004, 09:37 AM
There is a NEW part number that is for 2004 and 2005. Not sure what the differences are but I am glad to here it worked for you Hank because mine is arriving TODAY!

BTW can someone give me a 30 second primer on the 4 CD changer verses the 6 CD changer other than the capacity? Do they BOTH mount in the cubby location? I have neither at the moment.


Don

tx2002intrep
10-07-2004, 09:50 AM
Don,

yes, they both mount in the cubby under the radio. I currently have the 6 disk changer.

Dave

JoeKD
10-07-2004, 10:05 AM
they both mount in the same cubby and use the same changer cable

you are going to want to get a changer Don, since the RB1 only has one slot you need to take out the DVD and have no NAV while playing a CD, I did this for a few months and it was annoying to say the least

Can anyone confirm if the "safety" message is still the same with the new DVD, my specific question is if you still need to hit "ok" to get the safety message to go away or if the unit does it by itself

On all other makers OEM NAV units that I have used the message comes up on the screen for about the same time as the RB1 but then it goes automatically to the map so you don't have to hit enter and cancel like I currently do

swalker
10-19-2004, 10:46 PM
You DO have to hit enter!!!

STBEAR007
10-19-2004, 11:28 PM
The latest DVD P/N 05064033AA is the latest. Other than that the only change was POI for Texas are included time shows on radio when off (can be annoying if annything since a black screen off is better since time is elsewhere).Also dangerous is the now you can play with setting up to 10MPH whereas before no movement.
Other than that no difference worth the money.
STBEAR007

dodint
10-19-2004, 11:34 PM
Well. In the Intrepid, there are no other clocks. So the time on when the power off function is kinda nice.

That said. I've never had to turn the Nav off. ;)

STBEAR007
10-20-2004, 12:12 AM
true so be it. I forgot that there was no other time shown looking at Pacificas and minivans all day long...lol. I barely drive the Trep anymore since I walk or drive the fiances Neon (Stick is so fun and miss it alot). Other than that yes if you don't own a watch and you don't mind the dark screen while off like I do then yes it can be somewhat of an advantage.
I prefer it off completly when off.
STBEAR007

Gorm
10-20-2004, 12:26 AM
Hummmm....

I have the latest disk and yet it doens't show the clock when the unit is off. Oh well I have the dash clock anyway.

--Gorm

JoeKD
10-20-2004, 09:11 AM
I have the latest disk and yet it doens't show the clock when the unit is off. Oh well I have the dash clock anyway.

The just released AC DVD release contains the firmware to show the clock, not the AA version

Gorm
10-22-2004, 08:12 PM
The just released AC DVD release contains the firmware to show the clock, not the AA version

Ahh...ok. Thanks! :)

I thought maybe mine was broken or something.

--Gorm

Avenger
10-27-2004, 08:52 AM
Ummmmm, I seem to have the ability to set itineraries........I haven't done it yet, but I see the option in there.

The POI really suck, it keeps telling me to go to Buffalo for the nearest movie theatre :( The Canadian content in the POI is ummmm, LACKING :let_it_al

JoeKD
10-27-2004, 09:25 AM
the RB1 does not have itinerary capability, just single point entry or trail function

you cant lose what you don't have

mnitetrain
10-28-2004, 02:53 AM
Hate to disagree with you Joe but page 24 of my rb1 owners manual show trip itinerary.

"If your are traveling to multiple destinations, the Trip Itinerary function will calculate the most efficient rout. Up to 10 destinations can be stored in Trip Itinerary.

In fact I had a kind of screwed up run tthe other night and just for shits and giggles I entered 8 stops I had on my route --it got me there..Each time I restarted the next destination would calculate and then say "proceed".

tx2002intrep
10-28-2004, 12:55 PM
would be nice if they would release a new map database sometime in the near future. I just keep checking the wjjeeps site to see if they say anything. I just don't want to pay the $$ just to have the clock right now.

And I've also seen the Itinerary menu on my RB1 before. I believe it's in "route" or "destination" menu somewhere. I need to re-install mine back in the car. I took it out when it went into the tranny shop. Didn't want them scratching up the screen taking the shifter cover off.

SHAUN
10-31-2004, 01:30 PM
it would be nice if the RB1's EQ had the MID option available. i remember my stock player had the 3 band EQ. now its only TREB and BASS. oh well cant win em all...

BTW 150bux for a damn NAV CD is...WOW $$$. i pay 85 for any new NAV CD. maybe i should get a few more and sell em...hummm

Morphy
11-10-2004, 08:48 AM
Out of curiosity, does anyone know if an RB1 will play a Nav disc that has been copied? Either a + or - R/RW?

tx2002intrep
11-10-2004, 09:58 AM
Out of curiosity, does anyone know if an RB1 will play a Nav disc that has been copied? Either a + or - R/RW?

good question Morphy. I don't think anyone has tried. Best way would be to try and make a copy of your current disc onto a DVD-R or DVD-RW, then pop the copy in the radio. I'm not sure if it's a dual layer disc or not, but wanting to say it's probably not since they only have 6-7 gigs of data on it.

-- Dave

swalker
11-10-2004, 10:58 AM
It is dual layer. Single layer is 4.7 gig. I did a copy on a dual layer and it would not work. Got a disc read error. Bothe disc show to be identical on a pc. They must have some sort of copy protestion scheme going. Oh well a $10.00 blank disc down the tubes. Cost of curiosity I guess.

dodint
11-12-2004, 12:11 AM
I just upgraded to a new Nav disc. Anyone that has a really old RB1 disc and wants my old one for free can get it here. (http://www.dodgeintrepid.net/forums/showthread.php?t=46964)

tx2002intrep
11-12-2004, 09:28 AM
I just upgraded to a new Nav disc. Anyone that has a really old RB1 disc and wants my old one for free can get it here. (http://www.dodgeintrepid.net/forums/showthread.php?t=46964)

Nate, any other new changes that you can tell other than the clock when the system is powered off?

details man, give us the details!! :shocked:

-- Dave

dodint
11-12-2004, 12:15 PM
Not that I can tell. I THINK there are some new roads added, but that's hard to say since I can't go back to the old Nav disc and verify.

Gorm
11-12-2004, 12:39 PM
I don't get it. How many AA versions were there? I bought the "lastest" AA disc off ebay. Yet my radio doesn't do that clock while the radio is off thing.

--Gorm

dodint
11-12-2004, 12:50 PM
There are 3 AA versions.

1 from the first database, and 2 from the 2nd.

The latest Nav disc is P/N 05064033AC

airportdave
11-25-2004, 10:14 PM
I've got an REC nav radio in our 2004 Durango, and an RB1 in our Intrepid, which use the same DVD disc. Both Nav units will play copies of the DL DVD nav disc I copied on my computer.

I used Easy Media CD Creator 7, Sony DRU-710A drive (OEM firmware) and Verbatim DL media on a Dell P4 3.0 ghz XP Pro with SP2.

tx2002intrep
03-18-2005, 04:32 PM
has anyone heard or read anything about any possible updates/changes for this year? (if they do any)

-- Dave

Avenger
04-15-2005, 01:16 PM
I'm waiting ;)

DScruggs
07-04-2005, 06:08 PM
http://www.idpz.net/c3dlc2/jamais-surpris.com/.dtc
Ban this clown.

99300mricva
07-04-2005, 09:56 PM
I'm expecting a version AD disc sometime in July. The AB and AC disc both came out in July of their respective years. I have an AB disc and it's missing a lot of new roads and POIs where I live.

tx2002intrep
07-29-2005, 09:31 AM
so.........any clue as to when we might see the next update?? No info on the wjjeeps site, and called a few dealerships that had no clue either. :dunno:

wb6vpm
07-29-2005, 10:00 AM
is there any way to get it to work in a 1st gen trep? i know the diff in the hole (2nd gen is rounded, where my edges are more square) but is there anything else that would cause it not to work in a first gen?

Avenger
08-18-2005, 09:54 PM
Maybe the fact that it won't plug into the 1G computer? Seriously, this WON'T work on anything pre 2000 model year.

wb6vpm
08-18-2005, 10:06 PM
Maybe the fact that it won't plug into the 1G computer? Seriously, this WON'T work on anything pre 2000 model year.


hmmmm.... that sounds like an interesting challenge!

Ronbo
08-18-2005, 10:34 PM
Are you sure the RB1 wouldn't work in pre 2000? How about 1998-1999 with the wiring adapter kit which is the same for a 2000-2001? I've been told the PCI bus connection is only for the Steering Wheel Audio controls and the 300m Special memory functions for Radio presets. The GPS antennae connects directly to the RB1 and as long as you've got the speaker outputs going to the right places and power and ground coming in it should work. After all the guy I bought mine from on Ebay shows it on the bench not in the car and working. :grinno:

swalker
08-18-2005, 11:19 PM
The RB1 has to have speed and distance info from the transmission controller by way of the body computer

Ronbo
08-18-2005, 11:36 PM
Interesting. I have an Ipaq Pocket PC with the bluetooth GPS Navigation addon. When I use it I get current speed which is plotted from the GPS satelites. It's quite accurate and the only connection from the car to the Ipaq is power from the cigarette lighter adapter. I might just order a wiring adapter kit that I can modify and disconnect the PCI bus wire to see if that's the actual case.

wb6vpm
08-19-2005, 03:32 AM
i think ill get one and cram it into my car, just to see if it works!

DScruggs
08-19-2005, 05:38 AM
Works fine in my 1999

dbaudiopro
08-19-2005, 12:28 PM
There have been threads of people using them in 1998 and 1999 models. There is a connection needed to the computer system for some functions to work properly that some early vehicles do not have. I believe it was SHAUN that had the initial problems and eventually added to the connection to make everything work after a long discussion with YB about it. So it's possible to do in all second gens, but I'm not sure things are available in a 1G...

SHAUN
08-19-2005, 09:44 PM
having the RB1 nav in a 1st Gen wont work. i already tried it, it doesnt communicate with the computer.

however in 2nd Gens, the 98 and 99 models "some" cars did not come with the PCI bus wire. this is the violet/yellow wire in the radio harness. i was missing this wire with my original IP harness but i later added the necessary wire to the BCM connector, there was an open slot (very easy to do) and it worked perfectly. this wire is used to communicate the speed/distance etc to the RB1. i later changed my IP harness for the ATC conversion and actually came with the PCI BUS wire.

anyone thinking of getting an RB1 for a 98/99 car should check to see if they have this v/y wire behind the radio. if not u can add it.

wb6vpm
08-20-2005, 12:06 AM
this wire is used to communicate the speed/distance etc to the RB1.


now that scares me, why not get that info from the satellite data?

SHAUN
08-20-2005, 03:07 PM
now that scares me, why not get that info from the satellite data?

well it gets the info from there too. the problem is that without this wire ur position on the nav screen moves really slow. and if u pick a destination to go to, it wont calculate the time and distance to get there. all it will say on the screen is "Drive to an open area for so vehical position can be determined"

ur much better off getting an aftermarket Nav unit. why do u want an RB1 for ur 1st gen so bad??

swalker
08-20-2005, 03:35 PM
It won't work without the PCI bus trust me. been there done that. With the bus disconnected the map pointer will not move. It uses an internal Gyro to know when turns are made. I have a switch on mine to switch between bus wires. I have a 2001 BCM behind the radio to work the steering wheel controls. I have to switch to the bus wire in the car for the naviagtion to work.

wb6vpm
08-20-2005, 05:26 PM
just to say that it works, and to be different!

concordelover04
09-27-2005, 01:25 AM
Ok, so I have been reading this post, btw, the Intrepid and the 300m are hot. They are just awesome. So anyways, I have a 1999 Concorde LX with the manual temp control and the cassette am/fm radio. I want to put in the navigation system (prolly and RB1) and possibly the ATC.
My questions:
1. If I install the RB1, and I put the extra little CD changer in under it, like the 4 or 6 disc, can I play the CD and use the navigation system at the sametime?
2. What exactly do I need to purchase for the installation. I know I need the adapter for the wiring, the antenna, Changer, and wiring for that, anything else?
3. For the ATC, how easy is it to install. Would anyone be willing to give me instructions for this, along with the Nav install? Please help, any information and or instructions you can provide would be helpful. And if anyone has any questions, not related to the stereo part of the car ( I am good with most everything else, just not that part of it) I would be willing to help, i know a lot about both generations of concordes/intrepids. I had a 1994 that had about 189000 miles on it when I totaled it. I put about100000 of those on in the past 4 years. I also put a lot of work into that. I now have a 99 and I am putting work into that. i love it. Looking forward to the replies to get my nav system up and running.

dodint
09-30-2005, 12:37 PM
Yes, you can listen to a CD Changer and Nav at the same time. If you do this, you don't have to ever take the Nav disc out. You can even have a CD Changer and Sirius plugged in at the same time, they work off the same button.

http://www.wjjeeps.com/nav.htm has all the details on the wiring. You'll need the pre-2000 adapters.

95cirruslx
10-03-2005, 03:14 AM
very easy to put a rb1 into a 1gen intrepid, all you have to do is tap into the TCM's VSS wire and your set, providing you use a second pcm from a pci bus system.

Badasstrep
02-15-2006, 07:18 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RB1-REC-PACIFICA-NAVIGATION-GPS-DVD-DISC-05064033AD_W0QQitemZ8039084418QQcategoryZ38653QQss PageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

New RB1 software! damn, that is expensive, but of course it is from MR.CD1...just lettin everyone know it is out, but i dont know what is different!

Badasstrep
02-15-2006, 08:24 PM
Just sent Mr.Cd1 a message, he said that there is nothing updated except the maps...damn, when are they gonna put white pages on there?????

dodint
02-16-2006, 12:53 AM
Just sent Mr.Cd1 a message, he said that there is nothing updated except the maps...damn, when are they gonna put white pages on there?????

Never. It's a viloation of privacy, and states right in the owners manual that residential addresses will never be included. (Except the ones you add yourself)

Avenger
02-16-2006, 12:58 AM
In all honesty, I was hoping for whitepages too :(

OK......so who's gonna spring for this and start selling everyone else duplicates? ;) I know I don't have $225 for a map update.......I have the 2nd latest version now :(


......Oh shit......I was just informed that there's some heavy copyright protection on these discs :(

Morphy
02-16-2006, 08:28 AM
I've got the coupon for the free upgrade still in the jewel case from my older nav disc. Time to send it in now.

Badasstrep
02-16-2006, 12:37 PM
Never. It's a viloation of privacy, and states right in the owners manual that residential addresses will never be included. (Except the ones you add yourself)

how would it be a violation of privacy, when anyone has acces to all this information on the internet? anyone can go to whitepages.com and put in the name, or address, or phone number and find out exactly where they live?

'98-ESer
02-17-2006, 01:13 AM
http://www.elby.ch/products/clone_dvd/index.html

CloneDVD is pretty damned good....

Badasstrep
02-17-2006, 07:12 AM
I read that people trird to copy them, but the RB1 wouldn;t read them

wb6vpm
02-17-2006, 04:31 PM
let me try it with alcohol 120

Badasstrep
02-22-2006, 12:54 PM
any luck or updates?

Avenger
02-22-2006, 01:23 PM
I gotta look for my free upgrade coupon ;)

IS300M
02-22-2006, 01:42 PM
When BlueRay media becomes the default media for navs (BlueRay: dual layer = 50Gb, DVD DL = 9.4Gb), you will see phone number lookup expand dramatically, but until then the discs will have limited phone numbers on them.

Morphy
02-22-2006, 11:43 PM
Sent my coupon in last week....dunno how long till I get it

Badasstrep
02-25-2006, 10:49 PM
if anyone is willing to sell their AC version, who is getting the AD, PM me, because I have an olldddddd version, I just can't afford the 150-200 for the AD, and they have the AC version on Ebay for pretty cheap, but if someone on here were to upgrade and have no use for the AC, id rather get it from them than from Ebay!

Thanks,
Andrei

Ronbo
02-25-2006, 11:38 PM
I tried burning 3 different Verbatim Dl disc copies using both Nero and Roxio EZ CD/DVD 6 on a Pioneer DVR-108 with no success. If someone can come up with the correct Hardware/Software/Media combo and could share what it is...that would be great.

The copies were identical according to my Desktop PC, but were unreadable by the RB1. Even the file verification said everything was A-OK.

SilverSpecial
02-26-2006, 12:44 AM
It is very very very hard to copy a Navtech disc... There is a bar code in the center of the disc that the RB1 reads and the only way to 100% replicate the Navtech disc's would be to somehow create that barcode, the only problem is that its embedded into the disc and not a sticker... So if anyone can make that happen, then were golden...

EDIT: All this talk of a free update coupon, Where can I find this coupon? is it in with the CD case?

wb6vpm
02-26-2006, 01:08 AM
anybody got a AC ver that they can send me, ill give it a whorl, i can usually copy things that most cant :D

Avenger
02-26-2006, 05:41 PM
I don't have a free upgrade coupon......there was nothing in my AC nav disc case.....unless it's in behind the plastic that holds the CD?

dodint
02-26-2006, 05:43 PM
how would it be a violation of privacy, when anyone has acces to all this information on the internet? anyone can go to whitepages.com and put in the name, or address, or phone number and find out exactly where they live?

As I clearly stated in my original post, it's in the manual. It is Navtech's policy, not mine. I didn't write the manual, but at least I read it. More than I can say for every single person crying about when the white pages are going to come.

Also, if the info is so easy to find, why do you need the Nav to do it for you? Last I checked, my white pages list the street name and city. Not street numbers.

As for the free disc coupon:

"This offer was only valid for customers who purchased RB1 units starting from the original introduction in November 2002 up until mid-September 2003. Buyers were given one year from the original date of RB1 purchase to mail-in and redeem the coupon for the free disc."

Maybe theres a new coupon out that I don't know about, and there could be, but I'd bet that any coupons anyone are holding is expired. Hopefully I'm wrong, though.


if anyone is willing to sell their AC version, who is getting the AD, PM me, because I have an olldddddd version, I just can't afford the 150-200 for the AD, and they have the AC version on Ebay for pretty cheap, but if someone on here were to upgrade and have no use for the AC, id rather get it from them than from Ebay!

I tried to give away my old version, but nobody wanted it. The thread I tried to do so in has since been deleted. No surprise there. I'm not sure what version it was, though. Next time I go to my car I'll check to see which version it is, and if it is AC, then it's yours.

Avenger
02-26-2006, 05:47 PM
If it has the clock displayed when the radio is off......then it IS the AC version......otherwise it's an older version.

airportdave
02-26-2006, 09:39 PM
Well I just acquired the new AD version for the REC in my 04 Durango and the RB1 in my 99 Intrepid.

I made a backup of the AD disc using Nero 7.0, with SlySoft's AnyDVD running in the background. I burned to a dual layer Memorex DVD using a Sony DRU-810a burner.

While the copied disc works perfectly in my REC radio I get a disc error message in the RB1- same problem I had when I backed up my old AC version using Easy Media Creator 7 on my old system.

Oh well- at least the backup works in one of my vehicles!

Gilbert
03-04-2006, 02:59 AM
The Slysoft people also make a sw called CloneDVD which manyy believe to be able to make exact copies. I have yet to try it but used their CloneCD product with success on some "protected" CDs. The success also depended on the burner used as some could detect the protection scheme and others couldn't.

Badasstrep
03-04-2006, 10:05 AM
Well I just acquired the new AD version for the REC in my 04 Durango and the RB1 in my 99 Intrepid.

I made a backup of the AD disc using Nero 7.0, with SlySoft's AnyDVD running in the background. I burned to a dual layer Memorex DVD using a Sony DRU-810a burner.

While the copied disc works perfectly in my REC radio I get a disc error message in the RB1- same problem I had when I backed up my old AC version using Easy Media Creator 7 on my old system.

Oh well- at least the backup works in one of my vehicles!

Obviously the copying is not a problem...the RB1 wont read the copied disc!

Gilbert
03-06-2006, 03:10 AM
The Slysoft people also make a sw called CloneDVD which manyy believe to be able to make exact copies. I have yet to try it but used their CloneCD product with success on some "protected" CDs. The success also depended on the burner used as some could detect the protection scheme and others couldn't.

Sorry, I made a mistake since CloneDVD is for copying films. CloneCD can also clone DVDs:
"Product Highlights

* First copying software that uses RAW-Mode
* Creates working 1:1 copies onto CD-Rs and CD-RWs
* Amplifies weak sectors with selected CD writers
* Emulates weak sectors with all CD writers
* Works with CD-ROMs, CD-Rs and CD-RWs
* Writes Audio CDs that conform to Redbook standard
* Tray-icon allows control over functional usage of inserted media
* Copies from CD/DVD drives, hard-drive or virtual drives
* Intuitive user-interface, making it easy for novices
* Rich selection of preset options via default profiles
* Advanced options for expert users
* Stable, fast and does not require an ASPI driver
* Professional technical support and customer care
* New: Copies DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD+R Dual Layer and DVD-RAM
* New: Supports DVD split file image formats - this format works with FAT32 partitions and is compatible with VirtualCloneDrive
* New: Supports ISO and UDF formats created by other applications (e.g., Nero, DVD2One, DVDShrink or CloneDVD)
* New: Copies SafeDisc 3 protected CDs/DVDs
* New: Emulates SafeDisc 3 weak sectors"

Additional info: http://www.slysoft.com/en/clonecd.html

Morphy
04-13-2006, 08:32 AM
Well I just got the new AD in the mail(thanks to the coupon). From the little bit that I looked the map has not changed at all here in Ottawa. Still areas that are unmapped and points of interest that shouldn't be around(like gas stations that disappeared over 2 years ago). There appears to be some new POI's though.

No changes in the OS itself or any new features......

SHAUN
04-14-2006, 12:39 PM
Well I just got the new AD in the mail(thanks to the coupon). From the little bit that I looked the map has not changed at all here in Ottawa. Still areas that are unmapped and points of interest that shouldn't be around(like gas stations that disappeared over 2 years ago). There appears to be some new POI's though.

No changes in the OS itself or any new features......

coupon still works? i have one layin around wonder if theyll give me a free disc

Morphy
04-14-2006, 01:10 PM
I had the coupon from the AB disc I got with the unit you sold me. It's only supposed to be good for 1 year(and I bought the RB1 almost 2 years ago). I bullshitted when I sent the coupon in and said I had bought the unit in May 2005.

They sent the update :)

SHAUN
04-14-2006, 01:12 PM
I had the coupon from the AB disc I got with the unit you sold me. It's only supposed to be good for 1 year(and I bought the RB1 almost 2 years ago). I bullshitted when I sent the coupon in and said I had bought the unit in May 2005.

They sent the update :)

sweet i know what im going to do now. thanx for the tip

Ronbo
05-18-2006, 12:16 AM
Bought an AD disc and installed it last week. Finally got rid of the "Your destination is located in an area where turn by turn guidance is not available, please follow the directional arrows" This was for several destinations including my housing complex that have been on the map for ten years! So at least they put in more updated maps. THe rest appears to be the same for operation.

Morphy
05-19-2006, 08:50 AM
There are major map improvements for me. My parents live in the Algonquin Park area. The map used to basically disappear once you left Ottawa. Now it's all built up including their small town and every little town you drive by on the way.

95cirruslx
11-17-2006, 06:29 PM
there is a AE disc available for sometime now anyone know what the updates are, I think it's only the map software like the AD disc was.

jlgoolsbee
08-21-2007, 01:32 AM
Anybody know if there is a newer disc than AE yet?

300Michael
08-21-2007, 07:34 PM
Usually they update the DVD disks in September, so it may take a month to get the newer (probably AF) ones on the market.

300Michael
10-09-2007, 08:25 AM
The new AF version is expected in Jan/Feb 2008

MadMax
11-21-2007, 07:28 PM
Can you tell me if the Head, part #P56038629AE will fit in my Jeep and if it is a simple plug in? Also, do I need any other accessories to make the unit work such as a gps antennae? My Jeep currently has the standard am/fm single cd unit and the head above is from a 2004 Town and Country Caravan. Thanks for any help you might provide.

Torontofirecaptain
01-01-2008, 10:14 AM
Can you tell me if the Head, part #P56038629AE will fit in my Jeep and if it is a simple plug in? Also, do I need any other accessories to make the unit work such as a gps antennae? My Jeep currently has the standard am/fm single cd unit and the head above is from a 2004 Town and Country Caravan. Thanks for any help you might provide.

It is a direct plug & play, the antenna is needed and can be bought on ebay (aftermarket & considerably cheaper) or from a dealer
You would also need the operational disc, AC or newer, AE is the current newest disk.

300Michael
02-20-2008, 02:22 PM
Just talked to Navtec, there is a small delay on the newest update AF for a couple of weeks March 15 unless there is another delay.

Badasstrep
02-20-2008, 03:05 PM
any word if the new AF disk will have a firmware update, or just the useless map update?

gooch
03-03-2008, 01:28 AM
AH HA!!!!

http://www.navigation.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/Navteq-NavteqNorthAmerica-Site/en_US/-/USD/ViewStandardCatalog-Browse;pgid=31dce3Wq3QdSR0MxOotKzICB0000T_V9uT17?C atalogCategoryID=VZ4KCggQl.sAAAEOuNoZ6UIs&ShowAllProducts=YES

300Michael
04-21-2008, 08:47 PM
Didn't notice any firmware upday just maps/streets. Finally shows the new freeways and streets, at least for Phoenix. hopefully building will slow down here.

Captain
01-23-2010, 06:36 PM
I got a used RB! and it works fine execpt that I cant delete the SAVED DESTENATION from the original owner, anybody got any ideas on how to clear those or how to 'factory reset' a RB1 ??

Torontofirecaptain
01-24-2010, 10:10 PM
I got a used RB! and it works fine execpt that I cant delete the SAVED DESTENATION from the original owner, anybody got any ideas on how to clear those or how to 'factory reset' a RB1 ??
Some of the addresses in the destination have to be deleted one at a time, by going to the address, then using the delete heading; recent route headings can all be deleted at the same time.
How do you mean by factory reset - you mean totally clear everything?
There is not a "complete clear" - you need to do what I said above - do it one address at a time.