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: wipers broken snow is falling.....I am assed out!!!!


poopyhead
02-06-2006, 10:23 AM
my wipers are broken.... looking under the cowl I can see the arm that comes from the motor that moves back and forth like came off. now with some moving around (cutting the hell out of my fingers) I was able to get the arm on only to have it keep coming off. anyway my question is does anybody know how to keep the arm on because the little plastic nipple (HEHEHE...nipple :lickface: ) is like worn and the dealer told me I have to replace the whole motor and arm for like 150 bucks for that stupid plastic thing!!

Faurtwenty
02-06-2006, 12:09 PM
Easiest and cheapest solution is replacement of the entire wiper transmission assembly.
Its only like 3 or 4 bolts to change everything out. I had to recently do it on my concorde because the motor burned out.

Someone on the site could probably pull one from a yard for you or, i might be able to get you one from the yard this week when im going there for other things.

Let me know if your interested and ill let ya know a price, but it will be less than the dealerships.

flowersc
02-06-2006, 12:18 PM
What??? Sounds like the little plastic square that keeps the arm on came off. Stupid thing really. If you loose that little plastic square, you are hosed. Go to a salvage yard and get another one. Otherwise, get some plastic and shape your own.

k-nash
02-06-2006, 09:42 PM
Last time I checked I saw those plastic caps for the linkages at Murray's, maybe some other part staore has them too. They were manufactured by "HELP" company.

Strongt
02-06-2006, 11:00 PM
You don't have to buy the whole motor to fix you part, tell me which part you would need, and I'll get you the cost of it, if you bought it from dodge.




1) W/o air foil W/o air foil Right 2) Blade assy Right 3) Motor
4) Motor Bracket 5) Linkage Upper 6) Linkage Lower
7) Reservoir 8) Cap

http://www.parts.com/schematics/images/P/PH93310.gif

poopyhead
02-07-2006, 09:52 AM
it does not seem to have a number on your really excellent diagram!!!
Howeever the piece i am looking for is at the end of the arm that goes back and forth to pull the wipers to and fro---(spell check please!)

poopyhead
02-07-2006, 09:53 AM
k-nash I totally did not think of that I have that brand at my shop do you know what part # it is?

Strongt
02-07-2006, 10:14 AM
it does not seem to have a number on your really excellent diagram!!!
Howeever the piece i am looking for is at the end of the arm that goes back and forth to pull the wipers to and fro---(spell check please!)

Well, there are two linkage's that control the wipers a, upper and lower.
The cost of the lower is: $ 55 and the upper is $ 10 more. I just wanted to let you know of the cost, if you could not find your plastic part. And let you know that you don't have to replace the motor and everythink. So you like the clear diagram :silly:

D76G12
02-07-2006, 10:54 AM
it does not seem to have a number on your really excellent diagram!!!
Howeever the piece i am looking for is at the end of the arm that goes back and forth to pull the wipers to and fro---(spell check please!) Between the short arm from the motor and the first link?
Or between the first and second link on the driver's side?

poopyhead
02-07-2006, 06:50 PM
at the end of the drivers side short arm first link

poopyhead
02-07-2006, 06:54 PM
the plastic peice faces down

Strongt
02-07-2006, 08:01 PM
If its the plastic peice that connects the passager side arm to the drivers side (which is the first link from the motor) you will need the Upper Linkage, if it's part of the first link from the motor you will need the Lower Linkage.

Here's how you can remove and install the linkage:

REMOVAL & INSTALLATION

See Figures 1 through 11

http://www.autozone.com/images/cds/jpg/small/0900823d80182a23.jpg
Fig. 1: Separate the hood seal from the cowl panel



http://www.autozone.com/images/cds/jpg/small/0900823d80182a24.jpg
Fig. 2: Unscrew the cowl panel ...



http://www.autozone.com/images/cds/jpg/small/0900823d80182a25.jpg
Fig. 3: ... then lift the unit from the vehicle



http://www.autozone.com/images/cds/jpg/small/0900823d80182a26.jpg
Fig. 4: Remove the linkage mounting bolts



http://www.autozone.com/images/cds/jpg/small/0900823d80182a27.jpg
Fig. 5: Disconnect the wiring to the wiper motor



http://www.autozone.com/images/cds/jpg/small/0900823d80182a28.jpg
Fig. 6: You can either remove the unit to work on it ...



http://www.autozone.com/images/cds/jpg/small/0900823d80182a29.jpg
Fig. 7: ... or unbolt the linkage on the vehicle



http://www.autozone.com/images/cds/jpg/small/0900823d80182a2a.jpg
Fig. 8: And remove the assembly after detaching all of the components



http://www.autozone.com/images/cds/jpg/small/0900823d80182a2b.jpg
Fig. 9: Use a ball joint/tie rod separator to separate the caps from the wiper linkage



http://www.autozone.com/images/cds/jpg/small/0900823d80182a2c.jpg
Fig. 10: Using a socket larger than the cap is necessary to remove them



http://www.autozone.com/images/cds/jpg/small/0900823d80182a2d.jpg
Fig. 11: Exploded view of the cap and seals on the wiper linkage



Lift up on the driver's side wiper arm and move the retainer tab fully away from the wiper arm.

Grasp the blade and arm assembly and pull up off the wiper arm shaft.

Disconnect the washer hose on the driver's side blade from the metal line.

Unplug the washer hose on the right blade from the metal line.

Lift up on the passenger's side wiper arm and move the retainer tab fully away from the wiper arm.

Grasp the blade and arm assembly and pull up off of the wiper arm shaft.

Remove the rear hood seal along with the cowl screen.

Remove the linkage assembly mounting bolts.

Disconnect the wiper arm linkage, using a ball joint/tie rod separator, separate the ball cap from the ball.

Remove the caps by placing a cap shoulder over a socket larger than the shoulder. Tap on the cap into the socket and remove.

Disconnect the electrical wiring harness.

Extract the wiper motor/linkage assembly.

To install:

Connect the electrical wiring harness.

Place the linkage on the socket, then install the cap into position over the socket and tap on the shoulder of the cap to lock it into position.

Connect the washer hose.

Position the wiper linkage/motor assembly and secure it with the mounting bolts.

Tighten the mounting bolts to 8-10 ft. lbs. (11-14 Nm).

Cycle the wipers once and allow them to park to make sure that they are installed in the correct position.

Install the cowl screen and rear hood seal. Tighten the screen hold-down bolts.

Inspect the weather-stripping to ensure full engagement to the upper lip of the dash panel (firewall).

Connect the right washer hoses to the hoses on the wiper arms.

Slide the wiper arms onto the shafts until they snap in place. Install the wiper arms onto the shaft orienting it so that the tip of the blade is 1 inch (25mm) from the bottom of the windshield.

Start the vehicle and check for proper operation

Hopefully this post helps you fix you wipers, sorry for in being so long.

k-nash
02-07-2006, 09:15 PM
I can't remember the part # from the HELP company. But I can tell you I temporary fixed my old 93 with electrical tape on the seal then I snapped the plastic cap back on(till I could get the part) It worked for a very quick fix, but it wouldn't last long in a down pour. Might just last long enough for you to get the part to fix it right.

BTW that is an execellent how-to from strongt


Usually it is just the plastic cap that wears out and allows the linkage to pop loose.

poopyhead
02-08-2006, 09:55 AM
yes! its the plastic cap that wore out if anyone know where to get them I would sent them a cold one:beer:in the mail

EspizTrep
02-08-2006, 10:16 AM
go to a junk yard

CDN R/T
02-08-2006, 10:36 AM
Here's how you can remove and install the linkage:

Great "How to".

FlyLikeAnEagle
02-12-2006, 06:25 AM
I just had this same issue the other day, ( in the rain), on my '93 vision with 216,000 on it and just went to " U-PULL-IT", and yanked the whole assembly without the motor. I took this from a '97 intrepid, paid $11.00 total and put it in myself in about an hour. Everything is nice and tight! cheap , stupid design, but this was an easy fix. GOOD LUCK!!! J

jlrohio
03-13-2007, 07:02 PM
Last time I checked I saw those plastic caps for the linkages at Murray's, maybe some other part staore has them too. They were manufactured by "HELP" company.

Did you ever get the Part Numbers on those "HELP" Products by chance. (Are those the ones that are in "red boxes".

I tried to "Ethnically Engineer" mine back together 3 years ago with plastic weld and wheel bearing grease for suction...and it worked for three years...until I went to remove from snow from the windshield a couple of weeks back.

Here is pic from three years ago of that ball/socket assembly (the one with the nipple on it) that came apart on mine (http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o286/jlrohio/Wiper%20Linkage/BallJoint1.jpg). I'd like to make the repair more permanent this time...rather than buying something from the dealer for $150 for poor engineering.

Thanks in advance if you ever found that number out.

Chewievette
03-13-2007, 08:09 PM
Mine broke a couple of years ago and no one had those parts so I just got a whole transmission and motor assembly from the junkyard for $10. Cheap and easy.

jlrohio
03-13-2007, 09:57 PM
Ok, Just got back from AutoZone.

As previously stated, the "HELP!" Brand (from the Dorman Company) does carry a Wiper Linkage Bushings Kit ( Part Number 49447 ) (https://www.dormanproducts.com/cgi-bin/vm91corp30r/cat_search1.w?sid=0x0037c397&clt=hwrap1&vsrch_str=49447&vsrch_brand=ALL&vsrch_cat=ALL&vsrch_range=ALL&vTime=71037), that can be used for a 1995 Dodge Intrepid.

I picked up this kit for $4.99, it came with 10 different bushings inside the package. Only 1 of the bushings is for the one I needed. I guess the others are for other brands of vehicles.


The package states, "Chrysler 1974 & Up, Jeep Cherokee 2000-93, GM C/K Series 2003-88" but the web site does not have a detailed listing for the Intrepid.



Rock Auto also carries the part online (http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/raframecatalog.php?catalog=42&partnum=49447&a=FR42-49447)


In addition, Midway Auto Supply carries it as well. (http://www.midwayautosupply.com/showproduct.aspx?productid=12993&affiliateid=10050)



Now here's where I need some guidance/help/assistance.

The instructions say,
Lubricate bushing with an appropriate lubricant such as silicone based grease.

So, I take it, good ole' WD-40 ain't gonna cut it! Soooooo :eek:

What should I use? I previously used wheel bearing grease and that actually worked for 3 years :sly:

I have some Silicone Lube from the makers of PB Blaster (http://www.pbblaster.com/store/moreinfo.cfm?Product_ID=15), should I use that? It's not really a grease? (I will say this...it absolutely is the best damn thing in the world for keeping snow and ice from sticking to my snow blower - better than PAM, wax, or any other oil)



OK, Forget everything I previously stated...I tried those Dorman/HELP! products...but they do not fit properly and lock into the holes of the arm/linkage/transmission bar. I've looked at Dorman's online catalog and they don't make the plastic parts (socket for the ball/socket assembly) for our cars (at least my 95 Intrepid).

I'm surprised dorman does not make these parts...there are quite a few folks who've had this same problem at different times and there are a number of threads about it.

It's too bad the gov't agency that does the car recalls doesn't hold Dodge/Chrysler responsible for safety items such as wipers and headlights...I guess they only care about transmission shifters and leaking fuel rails!

D76G12
03-13-2007, 11:45 PM
What you linked should be fine. I used nearly the same stuff for my garage door - it's held up for 10 years and finally needs another application ...