[cdmccul]

A second gen person is going to have to tell you where the fuel pressure test port is - but yes, it will be up on the fuel rail somewhere.

I wouldn't worry about putting 91 octane in it - put in it what it is supposed to burn - but do your car a favor and DO NOT run ethanol in it - especially for this next tank full, if you can at all get away from Ethanol. Run 87 or 89, just fine ethanol free.

I personally would drain the fuel tank by popping off the fuel line at the engine and aim it at a bucket. Then cycling the key till the tank is drained or really low.

Another think you can try is to take a hammer and hit the center of the fuel tank, straight up into the bottom of it, VERY hard. You might have to jack the car up to get enough swing - this often times will free up a stuck fuel pump to the point of letting you start the car - it will work for anywhere from 30 seconds to 30 days by doing that.

[nz87]

That's what I figured, but thank you. I've changed the rails before... I've just never touch the test port (I get weird when I haven't done something).

You mean the E85 stuff? From what I have heard only certain cars take it and if you put it in one that doesn't it can do big time damage, as I buy all my cars used I have never thought it worth the risk. Not to mention in most cases it is just as expensive because it is less fuel efficient. My reference to 91 was simply because I have always been told if your car is running rough a tank full of 91 will clean it out.

Kind of banging my head on this one (why didn't I think of that)... This would not only get what I truly believe is old fuel out, but would also prove to me that my fuel pump is as fit as a fiddle. Wasting a 1/4 tank of old crummy gas isn't going to kill me, but it might kill the car. This idea get's me so excited I want to go work on it right now.

[cdmccul]

Nonononono I mean ANY ethanol fuel - yes, E85 will not be kind to your car - and will be an issue if you use it - but I mean E10 - the stuff that is 10% ethanol and has been running in most cars since the mid 90s... If you can fine a pump that does NOT have ANY ethanol ( E0 ) that would be the BEST. Water will precipitate out of E10 Ethanol fuel (any ethanol fuel!) and will settle to the bottom of the tank where the fuel pump is, and will cause issues.

Drain your tank, and run PURE gasoline through it, no ethanol at all, for this tank at least.. I personally recommend that for every tank, but many people won't go for that.

[nz87]

decided to give it a try. Disconnected it at the green tab quick disconnect, anddd.... Nothing, no fuel pumping out... Fuel pump investigation time...

[98IntrepidTan]

I might have not followed the conversation, but I'd place a block of wood on the tank before smacking the tank with a hammer. Or use a rubber mallet.

[cdmccul]

Probably a good idea, but I personally never have. It is very hard to get any inertia behind your hammer swing at that distance laying on the ground. But yes, if you have it jacked up a long way, and can really swing, a block of wood is advised.

So, fuel pump inop... check the pump relay to make sure out is firing, and has power, then try knocking the tank from the underside... If you prove the pump is bad, you can search on here about how to cut the floor under the back seat, as to not have to drop the tank.

[nz87]

Success!!!

Pulled the fuel line going into the motor no gas coming from the pump. Pulled the line right next to the tank and barely anything is coming out. Drop the tank order new pump... Got restless decided to drop the fuel tank from junker assuming that one is bad too, but worth a try. Test it with out raising the tank, ends up working perfectly. Get everything back where it belongs, IT STARTS! Throw the car onto a hill and put it in park.... IT WORKS! Never thought I be so happy to have a car go into park. Thanks for your support guys, couldn't have done it without you.

[cdmccul]

Congrats!!!!

Great to see a success story!