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My dumb @ss is back again :-(

Hey guys, hope everything has been going well for everyone since I was here last. I have a problem, my 93' Taurus (3.8L) was stalling when at a stop, so I figured I would go over the basics myself.

Well I cleaned the TB, and sprayed TB cleaner into the IAC, put a rag around a screwdriver and cleaned the inside up nice. Well, when I put the IAC back on and plugged in the harness I tried to start the car and........NOTHING HAPPEND.

I probably should have let it dry huh? $50 down the drain I'm guessing. Any help would be appreciated.




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When it stalls, does it start right back up?
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When it stalls, does it start right back up?
It used to. Now it doesn't do anything after I cleaned the IAC
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Try giving it some gas when you start it. The IAC may be completely closed. It is probably also bad, causing your stalling, unless the EGR is sticking or there is a big vacuum leak or bad fuel pump.
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Well I went back out and it starts. It ran in park for about 3 minutes without stalling. Still a little shaky, and at the rear you can hear the exhaust stop and go occasionally. Kind of smells like a gas a lil but no one say MAF please. That's the last thing I need.
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The last time I had an issue like that in a Ford, it was my '98 Escort...almost the same symptoms, and it turned out to be the plug wires.
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Try giving it some gas when you start it. The IAC may be completely closed. It is probably also bad, causing your stalling, unless the EGR is sticking or there is a big vacuum leak or bad fuel pump.
My friend told me before he gave me the car that the EGR was going. I thought the EGR valve being bad just gave you bad gas mileage? If it is stuck shut, is there anyway I can open it?
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It's probably stuck open, you need to shut it. Take the EGR off and see if you can move it by hand... you might be able to knock out a bunch of carbon with carb cleaner or brakekleen, but watch out for getting any sort of rubber diaphram damaged. You can also check the EGR passageways, but they are probably clear. I don't know the pinouts, but I'd bet you have an electric EGR valve, and you could probably manually cycle it with the car's battery and jumper leads...
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Update: I found a spark plug wire that wasn't on properly...there was a lot of rusty powder inside so I cleaned that off and attached the wire and cleaned the TB with the car running. Reconnected everything and disconnected the battery for a while to clear any codes.

The car started and now will stall within 10 seconds if I don't give it some gas. As I am cleaning and reattaching things properly the car is only getting worse. I'm so lost.
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Things usually get worse before they get better so stay optimistic..
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Things usually get worse before they get better so stay optimistic..
Thanks Phil, boy do i wish I still had my Intrepid now :-(
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The car started and now will stall within 10 seconds if I don't give it some gas. As I am cleaning and reattaching things properly the car is only getting worse. I'm so lost.
IAC motor is probably bad...common on these cars -- either they stall all the time or idle at 2500 rpm...
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I'm gonna be the pessimist here. Point yourself in the opposite direction of that car and RUN. The 3.8 was probably the worst engine Ford ever made and has a life expectancy not all that dis-similar from a suicide bomber. You invest lots of money in it only so it can kill itself for no other reason than to inconvenience others...
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I think the car is an OB I, is there anyway I can retrieve the codes without having a scanner (I vaguely remember a paperclip trick).

The car is only for me to go back and forth to college, it's not even 5 miles there and back each day. That's why i really don't want to get another car, I bought this one for $250 just to get back and forth. Its only got 102k on it.
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The Fords prior to OBDII require a meter or test light... I think a meter. You have to watch the needle sweep back and forth and count the pulses.

Good luck... and yes, the 3.8 can be a bad motor. They have a very comon intake gasket failure much like the 3.1/3.4/3.8 motors. Ford had a customer satisfaction program that would repair them, 00M09. I had one in a 94 Taurus replaced free on that program... only to have the tranny completely shell out about a year later...

Good luck with it, you'll get there.
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