Case of the Mondays..starting to overheat... - DodgeIntrepid.Net Forums - Dodge Intrepid, Concorde, 300m and Eagle Vision chat
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 09-27-2008, 02:30 AM Thread Starter
Intrepid Newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 52
Feedback: 0 / 0%
                 
Question Case of the Mondays..starting to overheat...

....but I caught it. I have stock '99 2.7 w/144k on it, been oil changing w/mobil one since I bought it w/70k on it, based on the advice from this site.

I was driving home and the temp gauge was on it's way north of half way when I caught it (it never runs hot), so I pulled off, cooled down, repeat- took forever to get home. Dropped it off at a garage for what I was hoping was going to be a radiator flush and a state inspection. To top off the night, on the run home from the garage, got bit by a dog, had to get a tetanus shot. The mechanic said that the water pump was bad, and the cost to fix is more than the car is worth. Trouble comes in threes, understood.

The Question- What's the best way to test if the water pump really is bad?
Do they get clogged? Any way to unclog it if it is?

The car's been great, engine still runs great. This site's been great, awesome info, I'm sure the car wouldn't have made it this far if it weren't for the info here. I'd drop a new engine in if the car had a sunroof, but I'm not going to bother to unless someone knows of a 3.5 cheap near philly. If I don't see a cheap engine, its up for sale.

Anyone selling trep/concorde/300m from this site near Philly?
Last Q....what can I get for it? Any takers on a trade- the car for a contract on the dog?
Thanks!
trjoseph is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old 09-27-2008, 03:41 PM
I hit shit with sticks!


 
Daytrepper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Zebulon, NC
Posts: 37,145
Feedback: 21 / 100%
                     
Garage
Water pump is a very common failure on the 2.7. No way to fix it except replace it. At the same time, the timing chain is usually replaced, as these are known for the timing guides wearing out and putting extra stress on the water pump, which causes the water pump to fail.

What are they wanting to charge to fix it?
Daytrepper is offline  
post #3 of 11 (permalink) Old 09-28-2008, 11:28 AM Thread Starter
Intrepid Newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 52
Feedback: 0 / 0%
                 
Thanks for the info. They want around $1500 to change it out. I'm going to look at it today to see if I can figure it out if its clogged or really shot as they said.
Thanks. Tom
trjoseph is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 11 (permalink) Old 10-02-2008, 11:31 PM
Intrepid Pro
 
Xpid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Springfield,Missorui
Posts: 1,806
Feedback: 1 / 100%
                     
Personally i'd replace it rather it's clogged or not. I'd rather the water pump get clogged and stay that way than all that stuff floating around in my engine. I replaced the water pump on my 1g 3.5L and tossed a 180 degree stat. in it and it runs like a champ. Truthfully it is simple to change the water pump on the 1g's dunno bout the 2g's good luck tough!
Xpid is offline  
post #5 of 11 (permalink) Old 10-03-2008, 08:13 PM Thread Starter
Intrepid Newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 52
Feedback: 0 / 0%
                 
Thanks. It looks like its a major job, major hassle to replace. I still haven't had the time to look at it, I plan on looking at it this weekend, gonna scout some yards for a 3.5 just in case!
trjoseph is offline  
post #6 of 11 (permalink) Old 10-03-2008, 08:36 PM
Intrepid Modder
 
nerd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Hamilton, ON, CA
Posts: 443
Feedback: 0 / 0%
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by trjoseph View Post
....but I caught it. I have stock '99 2.7 w/144k on it, been oil changing w/mobil one since I bought it w/70k on it, based on the advice from this site.

I was driving home and the temp gauge was on it's way north of half way when I caught it (it never runs hot), so I pulled off, cooled down, repeat- took forever to get home. Dropped it off at a garage for what I was hoping was going to be a radiator flush and a state inspection. To top off the night, on the run home from the garage, got bit by a dog, had to get a tetanus shot. The mechanic said that the water pump was bad, and the cost to fix is more than the car is worth. Trouble comes in threes, understood.

The Question- What's the best way to test if the water pump really is bad?
Do they get clogged? Any way to unclog it if it is?

The car's been great, engine still runs great. This site's been great, awesome info, I'm sure the car wouldn't have made it this far if it weren't for the info here. I'd drop a new engine in if the car had a sunroof, but I'm not going to bother to unless someone knows of a 3.5 cheap near philly. If I don't see a cheap engine, its up for sale.

Anyone selling trep/concorde/300m from this site near Philly?
Last Q....what can I get for it? Any takers on a trade- the car for a contract on the dog?
Thanks!
What? How can your 99 intrepid not be worth more than $1500 when my 93 and 94 are retail $2775? even their wholesale is $975.
nerd is offline  
post #7 of 11 (permalink) Old 10-04-2008, 08:44 PM Thread Starter
Intrepid Newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 52
Feedback: 0 / 0%
                 
I'm just guess from what I've seen. I wouldn't think a 99 with a shot engine (ok the engine isn't shot, but the h20 pump is) would be worth much more than $1500. I'll look it up on ebay and see.
trjoseph is offline  
post #8 of 11 (permalink) Old 10-05-2008, 12:50 PM
Intrepid Pro
 
Xpid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Springfield,Missorui
Posts: 1,806
Feedback: 1 / 100%
                     
Hey pal, where you located I'm sure someone could help! Personally i don't think it could be a hard job, but then again I've never even seen a 2.7L in person. Every job is hard, just jump right into it and see how it goes, worst comes to worst you hit a hard spot you can slap it all back together.

Clayton
Xpid is offline  
post #9 of 11 (permalink) Old 10-12-2008, 04:42 PM Thread Starter
Intrepid Newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 52
Feedback: 0 / 0%
                 
Hi Clayton,

I'm live in Newtown, PA. Anyone on this website who lives close to Newtown who's down a h20 pump change out on a 2.7?

You're right. Every job is tough until you jump into it. Trouble is the engine's got 144k on it, but it still runs great. Maybe I will change it out, I looked at the "how to" on this site, and it looks like a pretty time consuming job. I just figured after the amount of time I devote to it, I could have install a 3.5 in the car. That's the delimma....still have'nt had a chance to look at it.....
trjoseph is offline  
post #10 of 11 (permalink) Old 10-21-2008, 12:53 AM Thread Starter
Intrepid Newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 52
Feedback: 0 / 0%
                 
Ok.

Had a little time this weekend. I've gone through the chilton's and trying to troubleshoot and here's what I come up with. The car seems to take a long time to reach operating temp. After it is warmed up, there's no heat in the cabin. The 30 amp fuse keeps blowing, so neither of my fans ever come on. I disconnected both radiator fans, jumpered them with juice from the battery, they both seem to work fine. I pulled both fan relay's, tested each of them with an ohm meter, they seem to test fine as well. So I have a couple of questions;

1.) Will the fans seem to run fine when jumpered, but blow a fuse when connected normally? They don't seem to make a lot of noise when running while jumpered.
2.) How can I tell if I need a new thermostat?
3.) How can I tell if I need a new water pump?

Thanks.
trjoseph is offline  
post #11 of 11 (permalink) Old 10-21-2008, 11:12 AM
Intrepid Fan
 
dmx31red's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Bronx, N.Y.
Posts: 214
Feedback: 2 / 100%
 
isnt there a guy in philly that does conversions?...TFC told me there was ...maybe he can help you out there
dmx31red is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the DodgeIntrepid.Net Forums - Dodge Intrepid, Concorde, 300m and Eagle Vision chat forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

Member names may only be composed of alpha-numeric characters. (A-Z and 0-9)

!!ATTENTION ADVERTISERS!! If you intend on advertising anything on this forum, whatsoever, you are required to first contact us here . Additionaly, we do NOT allow BUSINESS NAMES unless you are an Authorized Vendor. If you own a business, and want to do sales on this site via posting or private message, you will need to follow the rules. Shops, Stores, Distributors, Group Buys without being authorized will see your account terminated.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Linear Mode Linear Mode
Rate This Thread:



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome