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hey guys, my name is Darrel, we bought a 95 Intrepid with a 3.5L engine back in December, only 50K on it, everything was great till Saturday night, my son drove it to work and when he got off it wouldn't start, we originally thought he was just out of gas, but I dumped a whole can of gas in the tank, and it still won't start. cranks over no problem, just won't fire up, been reading about crank and cam sensors, timing belts etc... where should I start? I hear the fuel pump turn on when we turn the key on. any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. thanks in advance, Darrel.
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At that low a mileage, you have to wonder if the timing belt has ever been replaced. People don't realize that there is an age (time) factor on them too (7 years for 2nd gens, probably same or similar for 1st gens), and that has been found to be real - some people have learned that the hard way (on 2nd gens, you get valve damage when it breaks).

I don't know 1st gens, but on 2nd gens, you can remove a few bolts at the top of the timing cover and lightly pry (not enough to permanently bend) to open a small gap to peak in and see if the belt and cam sprocket move when someone cranks the engine.

My guess is that is the problem (again, due to the age and very low miles and probably original belt). Then - yes - engine sensors are the next suspects.


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Check timing belt as suggested. The passenger side Black Cover would be the side to partially open and see if cam turns.

Otherwise Crank and or Cam sensor are easiest culprits to attack.
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Ok it's not the belt I can see the cam pulley moving, checked for spark don't seem to have any spark. Where are the cam and crank sensors at?
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I have a 12 code and then the 55 end code. (12 code is battery has been disconnected ) anybody else have a guess?
Will I necessarily have a code if the crank or cam sensor is bad?
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Anyone have an idea to what this is? It's on the left side of the steering column.
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Looks like you have an aftermarket alarm. The red LED and the switch is for "Valet" mode and/or programming the alarm?
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...Will I necessarily have a code if the crank or cam sensor is bad?
Usually no because the PCM has to see a certain number of bad signal cycles before it sets those codes, and usually it quits running before it gets to that point.
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Usually no because the PCM has to see a certain number of bad signal cycles before it sets those codes, and usually it quits running before it gets to that point.
thanks, that's what I was wondering just going to change out both sensors, and see what we have then, thanks for your help everyone.
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Also wouldn't hurt to check the fuses at this point if you haven't already done so.
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