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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 05-06-2003, 12:43 AM Thread Starter
 
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Sad Noise coming from left front wheel everytime i brake.

i recently started hearing this squeeky noise coming from the area of the front left tire. everytime i start my car especially in the morning and i start breaking i hear the noise and i can't figure out where it comes from. it even sounds when i go over some sort of bump and i brake. at the same time i have this feeling in the brake pedal like something is hitting against it and i can't figure out what to do about it...HELP please....
it is very annoying and i am afraid to drive the car at high speeds anymore.
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When was the last time you had your brakes checked out?
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if it just squeaks in the morning there could be a little rust on it from some mist or something overnight, but if it starts to sound like you have a rock grinding against your rotor, replace the bracke pads cause thers a break in them and its only going to ge worse.
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Yup, someone is trying to test me. This is like the gazillionith brake question in the last two to three weeks!!! :crazy:

Anyways.....

I'm going to assume that this "squeak" only happens when you hit the brakes, right? Are you sure it's a "squeak" and not a "grinding" sound? I know that the rotors will form a layer of rust (like Mav is saying) when there is enough moisture in the air like rain, mist, dew, etc. Your first few brake applications will grind the rust away, but you will hear (and feel) this grinding. Also, the front outer pads have an anti-rattle clip with a built in wear sensor. What this wear sensor does is when the friction on your brakes get worn down to a certain level (roughly 1/8") the wear sensor (which is metal) will rub against the rotor and will make this grinding sound. Not only can you hear it, but you can also feel it.

So basically, check your pads for wear or even breakage of the friction material.

Let's us know what you find out. If that's not the cause of your noise, than we can dive into further. But checking your pads is a great place to start.
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guys. it's not the brake pads or the rotor. i had them both replaced not even 4000 km ago...it's got to do with something else...this noise that i hear is not necessarily squeaking. it's more like tow metals grinding together, or better said it sounds like a rusted coil spring when it contracts. last time i had my brakes checked at the dealer they said i need a new master cylinder becase the one i have on now is leaking...it's loosing preassure. also my brake is a little spongy. so i am not sure what makes that sound...HELP..
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Well, the spongy brakes are caused by either having air trapped in your brake lines, or your master cylinder has gone bad. Since you said you need a new master cylinder, there is your culprit.

As for the noise, if your master cylinder has gone bad, than the caliper may not be releasing immediately and fully due to lose of pressure. In other words, your brakes could be dragging.

How long ago did you have the pads checked? It has been known to happen that the friction material will crack and fall off the pad. This will leave you will little or no friction material so either the wear sensor or the steel shoe itself could be grinding against the rotor. Also, the pads may have been jarred lose and need to be put back into the caliper correctly.

Just to clarify, the noise only happens when you apply the brakes, correct???
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the noise happens when i mostly turn or go over some sort of bump...it's the hitting that happens when i apply the brakes. but its usually that i get them together..the hit and the noise...especially when i turn and brake at the same time..
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any possibility that it could be a worn coil spring rubber seat or a worn strut? when you go around corners, bumps, and even straight-line braking (due to weight transfer), you could get that sound. try making a turn w/o hitting the brakes (slowly of course) and see whether the sound still exists.
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any possibility that it could be a worn coil spring rubber seat or a worn strut? when you go around corners, bumps, and even straight-line braking (due to weight transfer), you could get that sound. try making a turn w/o hitting the brakes (slowly of course) and see whether the sound still exists.
That's basically what I was going to say.

I'm thinking it's most likely a suspension problem and not a brake system problem (the noise that is).
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the sound is still existent but not as often even when i don't brake..so it might be what you guys are saying..i just need to check for sure before i can say exaclty that i found the problem..i need to take that whole side apart anyway just to take a look at it. i'll keep you guys updated on what happens..
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When you are checking it make sure to check the lower control arm bushings.I had one that went bad and started the same way you are describing.
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hey...i did that already and i found out that the left control arm bushing is bad..the damn thing moves back and forth..i guess that's what was making the noise....thanks....i am gonna have that changed and let you know how it goes....thanks for now..

I have another problem..if my tranny sits for a few hours or even over night after i start the car, i put it in drive or reverse..doesnt matter the gear and it doesn't go anywhere. i gas it, the engine revs and after a few seconds it grips all of a sudden and just goes...and then if i keep driving and don't stop for long periods of time it won't do it..HELP. This is a big one...
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Do a search for transmissions,I am sure you will find something similar in there.I have the same problem with my 93 es but only in very cold weather,which tells me there is a problem with the fluid not moving fast enough.I am due for a flush so I will see if it helps with the plus4 and anti-foam.
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i had it checked by the garage that fixed it and they said something about a valve train being busted and they had to change it. now it does it again but only sometimes.i told them again and they said to take it in again..i think they are screwing with me.
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??????they said something about a valve train being busted and they had to change it?????

This is what they said?? Need a better explanation then that.
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