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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 07-07-2003, 04:55 PM Thread Starter
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Black Box Update

Got my latest issue of US News and World Report today (June 14 issue) and there's an article about black box usage in cars.

A guy in Arizona has been charged with manslaughter in an accident involving his Corvette. The black stated he was doing 114 mph in a 45 mph zone.

Goes on to say : virtually every car sold today has an 'event recorder' that stores key information (speed / deceleration/belt usage).

They go on to say the data is encrypted so the public can't have access to it. GM and Ford now allow for this data to be retrieved
by mechanics and investigators.

Says GM has been using it since the mid 90's and by 1997
every car sold here has some form of it.

Yet they are the only two who will admit to what info they are recording, the other manufacturers have no comment.

The worst part is Insurers are now getting the data and there is even a pilot that with satellite technology they can track your every move in your car.

The insurance industry is also looking at using it to give you better rates for responsible driving (yeah, right) as well as being able to deny your insurance claim if the box says you're bad.

It's worth reading and kinda scary.

Geez it's bad enough with insurance companies now, with this technology (and it will take off) the manufacturer's could nail us too.
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Talk about turning a good idea into a really, really bad idea along with a massive invasion of privacy.
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all that info is stored in the OBD system. but as stated above, the info is encrypted.

dealers have been able to see how a car was driven by looking at this info for a while now.
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No more embarassing pull-overs by the cops on Main Street for everyone to laugh at you! You'll just get a notice in the mail:

Dear Sir/Madam

Your data storage and transmission transponder reported to your local Police Department Traffic Violation Center that your vehicle travelled at 12 mph over the posted speed limit on Spring Street at 1403 hrs on 3 January 2004. Your violation fine is $247.00 and may be paid by personal check, credit card, or PayPal by 31 February 2004.

Thank you, and Safe Motoring
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No more embarassing pull-overs by the cops on Main Street for everyone to laugh at you! You'll just get a notice in the mail:

Dear Sir/Madam

Your data storage and transmission transponder reported to your local Police Department Traffic Violation Center that your vehicle travelled at 12 mph over the posted speed limit on Spring Street at 1403 hrs on 3 January 2004. Your violation fine is $247.00 and may be paid by personal check, credit card, or PayPal by 31 February 2004.

Thank you, and Safe Motoring
Yep, that might be here one day when OBD III goes wireless (in the works).
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Dear Sir/Madam
.....Your violation fine is $247.00 and may be paid by personal check, credit card, or PayPal by 31 February 2004.

Thank you, and Safe Motoring
"And we will be subtracting that amount automatically from your bank account. If your account does not have sufficient funds, we will make a payroll deduction."

Screw the feds.
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While I don't automatically give in to the doomsday predictions that closely follow every new technology that provides more information to more people... the kind of visions that tell about how the new technology will be perverted into a "Big Brother is watching you" scenario... I am far from convinced that it will be used in an entirely ingenuous fashion.

This is true of a number of technologies, both old and new, that we use every day.
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That's the day where I splice the wireless connector for the device into an easy plug/unplug connector.

I then spray paint any cameras that might be mounted.. :P

Uhh sir, I had my car on jacks, and I was seeing how well balanced the tires were visually. ANy data that you have is inconsistent. Sorry for the inconvenience.
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No more embarassing pull-overs by the cops on Main Street for everyone to laugh at you! You'll just get a notice in the mail:

Dear Sir/Madam

Your data storage and transmission transponder reported to your local Police Department Traffic Violation Center that your vehicle travelled at 12 mph over the posted speed limit on Spring Street at 1403 hrs on 3 January 2004. Your violation fine is $247.00 and may be paid by personal check, credit card, or PayPal by 31 February 2004.

Thank you, and Safe Motoring
The govt would have to force automakers to do this... if automaker A did this voluntarily then automaker B would advertise that they aren't doing this and take all of "A's" business away.

But I could see it happening.... I think put to a popular vote it would pass .... well if it weren't for women's sufferage would it pass ... nah probably not but I guess there is no going back to the good ole days
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