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post #1 of 5 (permalink) Old 08-21-2003, 04:10 PM Thread Starter
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Back seat questions?

Many many 1st gen ppl want to get rid of their back seat/make it a fold down without buying a new seat (I found a leather one for $150 shipped on ebay, but I'd rather not spend that much to have 2 non matching seats). But I have a few questions myself, on top of the advice that I found in other threads.


1) I am most definitely taking the bracing out from behind the seat, is this bad to do only if you use your trep to tow, or is this just all around bad? I also read somewhere that it is bad for the windshield.... What can I do to rebrace then without having anything in front of my subs, I wanna be able to see them.

2) Where do you start to build your box then after the bracing comes out? I was thinking about just going straight down a little behind where the bracing ends on the top (allowing for sub excursion). I'm thinking this would also allow room on the bottom of the trunk to lay the wires that usually run across the bracing, the bracing runs on an angle. Does this sound good? Just for fun, maybe a neon down there too then to reflect off the white on my subs.

3) I'm sure someone by now has figured out a good way to make the seat a fold down and can be thrown around quite quickly, anyone???? There was a thread where someone was going to experiment and try to get the seat on a latch type system so it can just swing open and closed like a door on a house, and lock on the top.

4) Has anyone tried to just cut off the little feet on the bottom of the backrest part of the seat (what holds the seat in), and just let the seat sit in place loose? I figure that would be pretty much the easiest thing to do, it'd take about 5 min. But my only concern would be the safety of my rear passengers. As long as they are in a seat belt connected to the car, does the seat really have to be secured down. With the belt over the person on the seat, does that 'attach' the seat pretty much to the car(think back to physics class and inertia/body in motion stuff). Also, I think the 2 seat belts, if hooked on, would hold the backrest up too if no passengers in the back.

If anyone can give me pointers on how to deal with any of my questions, I'd really appreciate it. I'd like to have a pretty clean looking install when looking in the cabin, and not just have a big mess of a back seat.

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1. The bracing is not really for suspension purposes. More for supporting the back seat.

2. Where ever you want

3. I wish it was that easy. I really do. But the back seat is too wide. Its wider then the distance between the door panels. You would need to cut the seat for it to work.

4. I did that on my tempo. But the back seat would bearly fit between the doors. Folded down. Had no safety problems.

But again, it wont work because of what i stated in 3.
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The bracing is there to suppor the rear seat. However it also adds structural integrity to the rear of the car. I have seen cars with it removed that experienced cracked rear windows because the rear packing shelf was able to flex. If you reinforce the rear packing shelf though, you should be fine...
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"3. I wish it was that easy. I really do. But the back seat is too wide. Its wider then the distance between the door panels. You would need to cut the seat for it to work."

Who needs the end 3" of a back seat anyway, I may just have to do that. I WILL be able to turn around and see my subs, I refuse not to Whoever decided 95 Treps dont need a fold down seat eats it, I hope they are punished severely for making this much trouble for me.

"I have seen cars with it removed that experienced cracked rear windows because the rear packing shelf was able to flex"

Call me dumb, but I'm not really sure what you mean by the rear packing shelf, like the rear dash panel? Any good ideas on how to do it db? I need a lot of room for box, its gonna start right behind the seat, but should I brace right from the box?

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Rear packing shelf = rear deck. The shelf just below the rear window. Reinforce this with some layers of MDF or had a piece of angle iron welded accross the bottom etc. Just don't remove the bracing and allow the rear deck the ability to flex or twist with the chassis...
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