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post #1 of 32 (permalink) Old 09-30-2003, 05:24 PM Thread Starter
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Sad Any speeding ticket experts out there?

Well, yet again, I got pulled over. First time in well over a year though!

The cop said I was doing 61 in a 40, but the interesting thing is that he was going in the opposite direction as me. I was heading south and he was heading north. As soon as I passed him, he did a 180 and turned on the blues.

I was unaware that his radar could accurately calculate my speed since if I was in fact going 61mph and he was doing say 40mph, the radar would say 101mph. I asked the officer if the radar was tied into the speedometer system, but he seemed to dance around the question...saying he could get my speed via radar whether I was going towards or away.

Can anyone shed some light on this? Is the radar system tied into the speedometer, or did he just subtract the his current speed from what the radar displayed in order to "calculate" my speed?

I answered the ticket with "Not Guilty", but would appreciate any advice you "speeding ticket experts" can give. My only defense (other than if I get some more info on the radar system) is that there was also a car in front of me, which may have been in the radars line of sight.

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Yes, they are almost always tied into the speedometer, unless you are driving through Mayberry or something. He got you, admit it, pay the fine.
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The radar is tied into the speedo and can calculate the speed itself. The speedo in a police cruiser is also "certified" meaning it's supposed to be calibrated more accurately than the average car. You can protest the ticket and insist to see the certification of the speedo, the gun etc. but it may do nothing more than piss off the judge...
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check to see when the last calibration was done on both the speedo and the radar gun. if the last calibration was more than 6 months ago you can get off with it. Also, check when the officer was last trained using the radar, more than 6 mos. you can get off with that also. I got off of one with each excuse and my roommate has as well. But go in expecting to pay the fine, and also, COURTESY always helps
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I retained a radar expert through the Points people that represented me, turned out the officer didn't show and I kept the $1600 in my pocket. I still had to pay the points people $1100. Anyway the expert was telling me that when the Police car is coming at you it makes a difference if you or he was decellerating or accellerating and the angle of approach such as downhill uphill. Don't know much more about it but it's worth looking into. Some good ideas already posted by absoluteaffinity.
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Always plead not guilty on the ticket and go to court...there's a 50% chance the cop won't show and the ticket will get dismissed. They expect you to just pay the ticket and be done with it. Its just a way for the city/state/municipality to generate income. If he does show, and you don't have a good excuse/story, you can always just plead guilty in front of the judge, and possibly get a lowered fine.
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Thanks for all the suggestions people... and keep em coming.

The car in front of me was approx. 40 ft away.

When I first saw the cop (and he first saw me) he was probably 250 feet ahead as I was coming over a crest of a hill and heading downhill. Not a steep downhill, but a downhill nonetheless.

I'm assuming he hit me with the radar when he was still pretty far... if he triggered it when we were close, I'm assuming the reading would be off.

YB Normyl... a $1600 speeding ticket!!!!
How the hell did you manage that? Were you doing 150mph in a 15 mph zone? What are these Points people?
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Points are usually excops or crown attorneys. Someplaces don't charge you if you lose but Points do. $1600 was from 3 tickets he gave me at the same time,
1. 130 kilometers in a 50 kph zone
2. 180 kilometers in an 80 zone
3. unsafe lanechange
The first two are automatic suspension, you can see why I retained an expert.
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Well in this state, you can ask to see your "clocked" speed. A radar will vary in speed as you hit the brakes when you see the cop. In this state anyway, the cop must hit a button which stops the radar at a certain speed, he then charges you with that speed. Sometimes a cop just says what ever number he sees on the speed gun first. In this state you have a right to see the tracked speed, this saved me once. The cop said that I was going 73 in a 45 zone, when i asked to see his clocked speed (this pissing him off) we went over to his car and the clocked speed was 54. He ended up just giving me a warning and a lecture after this happened.

Well thats just a thought....

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Points are usually excops or crown attorneys. Someplaces don't charge you if you lose but Points do. $1600 was from 3 tickets he gave me at the same time,
1. 130 kilometers in a 50 kph zone
2. 180 kilometers in an 80 zone
3. unsafe lanechange
The first two are automatic suspension, you can see why I retained an expert.
DAMN YB. Thats some serious speeding!
You always dirve like that?

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I got nailed for doing 84 in a 40 zone this March. $50 fine.
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^^SE, kickin ass and taking names

My friend got pulled over this summer, 73 in a 25. Yeah. Yellow Nissan Sentra SE-R Spec V. Yeah it's like the sun.

Anyways, hasn't gone to court yet, but looks like it'll be over 250.

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