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Bought this off my friend for 60 bucks. He stole it from where I work and left for the air force today. We will miss ya colby.
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Don't get too much a false sense of security with that thing. From the reviews I've read about it, it doesn't have the best range of detection and falses quite a bit...
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It worked fine whenever I rode with him. He never got a ticket with it and he drives 65 every where he goes.
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Well radar detectors don't do much good. In PA they are used only by state troopers. And also, mostly by the time it detects something, you are detected too, so whats the reason.

I was stopped once in upstate NY just because I was speeding with one. Luckily I just left with a warning.
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Its been discussed. Personally I think they're worthless, one it detects radar, which is a microwave signal. Garage door openers, radios, antennaes, cell phones......etc.. all give off these signals and can set them off. Also, a common misconception, police radar is not meant to be left on all of the time. Only when actually clocking someone will it be on and that's the only time it will give off a signal. Also detectors give off a signal themselves, which is readable by detector-detectors, which just the other day one of the guys my dad works with had a signal on his detector-detector and sure enough as he comes over the hill there's a kid going 85mph (when he clocked him) in a 55mph zone. Of course the brakes came on fast and hard when he blipped the radar to clock him, but by then it was, as most of the time was way to late. Not to mention, all cops I know will 100% of the time write a ticket to someone who is using a detector. Only because they use these to try and get away with speeding. Now, I know there will be many of you who will argue with me and such. Have at it, I have the facts, I've watched it happen before my eyes and these are false security and a waste of money. And I know I'm bound to here success stories of how they've saved you many a time, two reasons: You weren't the one being clocked, or it wasn't even set off by police radar. By the way, I've been speeding 5-10mph for 2 years without ever being pulled over for speeding.
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Damn Jer Bear you really do make some ignorant comments don't you. Do you have any idea what frequency spectrum is? Obviously not. Cell phones and garage door openers don't even operate in the same spectrum. As far as antennas I have no idea where that came from. Everything wireless has an antenna, both transmitter and reciever. An antenna by itself doesn't do shit!

As for VG2 radar detector detectors, any good radar detector is shielded against that. Plenty of cheap ones aren't though so all your story means is that the kid had one that wasn't worth using.

Also, your theory of only having the radar one when clocking someone is great but just isn't what happens much of the time. I understand your daddy is perfect and ALWAYS does this, but 90% of the officers around here, as well as those I've run into in other states, simply sit around with the gun on 100% of the time. Even when just driving around town. In fact Austin just equipped their motorcycles with equipment that allows the officer to operate the gun hands free. Now they can also drive around with it on or simply aim the bike down the road and sit with their coffee until it goes off waking them up.

Now, is any detector going to protect you in every single situation? Of course not. But don't make ignorant comments as to how they are completely useless...
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Most radar equipment will malfunction or burn out if it's left on for long periods of time. Different frequencies, yes, but they still go off from these simple things. Antennaes? Yah, like cell phone antennaes (or towers) and such. Ignorant? Personally I think buyers/users of detectors are ignorant. Here's a bit of someth'n for you. If these work SO well, why aren't they illegal in all 50 states? Also, what do one of those top of the line things cost? $250? $450? How much is a max fine speeding ticket in NE anyway, $200 for 20+mph. First off, I'd much rather pay the ticket. And it in no way can it keep you from getting a ticket if you're the one being clocked. Also people who use them as a majority speed all the time, and merely single themselves out and make themselves easy targets. Also they don't prevent against VASCAR which is impossible to detect since it doesn't use a signal.

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Wow, what a blatently ignorant thing to say, i agree db. My VG-2 cloaking has saved me several times in Mass., but they're legal in RI.
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Most radar equipment will malfunction or burn out if it's left on for long periods of time.
Huh? That is an ignorant statement. Most radar equipment? Maybe stuff 20 years old... There are speed limit signs around here that post your actual speed that are left on all of the time. Ever hear of photo radar...yes left on all of the time. Some of the cops in the town next to mine leave their radar on even when they are not in the cars parked at the station house. I really doubt if any modern radar would burn out if left on. (you can do better than that)

Radar detectors are what they are...a good one will work on many occasions...but nothing is perfect...if you are going to speed regardless might as well have a detector.

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Screw it, why do I bother? You guys are impossible.
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Well radar detectors don't do much good. In PA they are used only by state troopers.
Im gonna have to call you out on that one CEHE4KA. The Delaware River Port Authority use them as well. Which easily can save your ass going over the bridges and down 76. I do believe that Ka band radar is used on those street signs that have cameras. That was just something i was told however, but i know the first part is right.
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Screw it, why do I bother? You guys are impossible.
Ignorance is bliss isn't it???
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Why aren't there more happy people around?
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Ignorance is bliss isn't it???
In your case yes. I'm not the one who spent $300 on a thing that lights up and beeps every 5 minutes.
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Here's some reading material for you, tested BY cops and the people who make radar/laser units. Much retail radar detector packaging space is dedicated to the issue of claiming invisibility to the VG-2. The VG-2, marketed by Kustom Signals Inc., was the first radar detector / detector (RDD). All radar detectors radiate some amount of microwave at a certain frequency. Many times you are driving on the interstate and your detector goes off. You look around for Smokey....no Smokey. It was the radar detector in the opposite lane of traffic keying up yours. VG-2 is looking for microwave, lo (local oscillator) leakage at 11.55 GHz. Detector makers did two things to defeat the VG-2. First they changed their lo frequency. Second, and most clandestine, was to detect the VG-2's microwave leakage, shut down the detector until the threat was passed, and then turn back on the detector. It is called VG-2 Alert or a radar detector / detector / detector. Checkmate right? Wrong! Two years ago a new RDD, the Spectre, landed from Australia. It looked for the expanded detector lo leakage frequencies. Detector makers countered by changing lo frequencies. A new Spectre with a wider lo window has entered the market along with an entirely new RDD, the MD-3 from Hill Country Research. All three RDDs were provided SML by the Texas Department of Public Safety, the state police, for the field evaluation. Texas troopers operated the RDDs and detectors started at a cone placed at 1/2 mile from the RDDs. Test vehicles drove at 30 mph and when detected, the test vehicle was told to stop and its range was determined by a Kustom Pro III laser gun. Also by the way, this was written awhile back and most enforcement agencies ESPECIALLY State and Highway patrol have these.

Here's some more:

Laser is not radar! Laser's one milliradian, monochromatic beam can target one vehicle in a group. Radar can't! Laser's beam is extremely narrow compared to radar and must be reflected back to the laser gun by a reflective surface on the vehicle...first aiming point the license plate and then the headlights. At 500 feet, laser's light beam is a mere 18" wide compared to an X band radar beam of 157 feet. Laser does not "scatter" like radar's bouncing off other vehicles, billboards, or buildings giving you advanced warning. Simply put, there is no advanced warning to laser's use like there is with radar. If you receive a laser warning it usually means you just got a ticket! To prove this point we placed a target vehicle at 1,000 feet and a car behind it containing a radar/laser detector. We first hit the 1,000 foot vehicle with Ka band radar and both detectors alerted. We then fired a Stalker laser gun at the 1,000 foot vehicle's license plate. The front vehicle's detector alerted to laser, the following vehicle's detector was silent! We did this ten times with three different laser guns. The results were identical. The rear vehicle's detector provided no advanced warning to laser.

And something not really related but I've seen it discussed a lot.

Jamming, or attempting to jam a police radar gun is considered a Federal felony punishable with fines up to $75,000 and up to one year in jail, Code of Federal Regulations, CFR 95:422a. According to the Federal Communications Commission, Technical Rules Branch, "both active and passive jammers are illegal and punishable with fines and, in some cases, jail time. Manufacturers as well as jammer owners are culpable. You can not interfere with radio signals." I don't want your arguments here. Many products claim dramatic weight loss without exercise or diet. Coronado looked for the "Seven Cities of Gold." We still haven't found the "Fountain of Youth." Let's leave the Easter Bunny alone. See www.fcc.gov and enter key word "jammers." Ask them if jammers are legal. You can say anything on a package or on the phone. Due to lack of Federal enforcement of radar jammer regulations, an increasing number of states have enacted their own bans on radar jammers, i.e. California, Utah, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Virginia, North Carolina, Minnesota, Indiana, Washington D.C. We have been testing radar jammers for over ten years. In the words of P.T. Barnum of Barnum and Bailey Circus... "there is a sucker born every day." If you buy a "passive jammer" you are that sucker! Good luck with your speeding tickets and the guarantee that guarantees to pay them. We have found only one, that's right ONE, active radar jammer to work. It only works on X and K bands.

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