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Winter Tires

well, with all the snow those of us in the northeast got, i had a few question. as of noon saturday it's still coming down heavy in the rhode island area, btw. what do you think is the best solution for winter tires? i'm a big fan of bridgestone, so i'm looking at their blizzak line. anyone had any experience with those or any others? also is it true that you have to equip those in sets of four and not just on the drive wheels? if so why is that?
what about tire chains? i'm just trying to get a feel of would be best for which situation, and since it's not always snowy where i live, but i plan on taking numerous trips or new hampshire and other very snowy places, i'm not sure of what to do.
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although, i have to say, last night with almost 6 inches down, i didn't have too much trouble getting around
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Best snow tires I've ever heard of were the Dunlop Sport M3, and as you can see by clicking the Tire Rack link at the bottom of this site, they are rated pretty high. Now, since you like the way your rims currently look and salt will eat right through them, and also since it does not snow all the time, I recommend having the winter tires mounted on some cheapo rims from Pep Boys or something for like $200 for all 4 rims so that way you don't worry about harming your nice rims in the snow. Plus, if you come out one morning, and it's not snowing and you need to go somewhere, your ride is going to suck on winter tires, so you can just jack the car up, put on the regular rims, and drive off.
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really? winter tires are terrible on dry pavement? or is it just road noise?
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Both. They're really rough sounding, they wear a lot faster, and they make you fear for your car's life when you take a turn at more than 2 miles an hour.
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This will be my 2nd winter with my Dunlop Graspic's and I think I should point out that Axle is living in the past, everything he said is typical of the snow tires they used to sell back in the 80's

Newer studless snow tires are popular for a reason, they do a great job and you hardly notice they are there

My snow tires barely have a hum on dry pavement and handle corners about 90% as good as the OEM Eagle GA's

I have always run snow tires on all 4 wheels, you need to be able to grab the road with all of them

Yes, they will wear faster than regular tires but you only run them for one season so it really isn't that much of an issue

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Forget that; I'm just gonna put chains on mine. :p
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This will be my 2nd winter with my Dunlop Graspic's and I think I should point out that Axle is living in the past, everything he said is typical of the snow tires they used to sell back in the 80's
Perhaps I should fly you out a set of brand new Blizzaks and you can try them for yourself, and then we'll see who's living in the past.
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Actually, if you want the best snow tires money can buy, then look into Nokian tires (www.nokiantyres.com). They are designed and tested in Ivalo, Finland where they have over 10 miles of test track and is located 186 miles north of the Artic circle. They are the world's safest snow tire with a design that fetures literally thousands of sharp biting edges. They are speed rated either Q or T (If you are crazy enough to drive 100+ MPH on the snow) and have a directional thread pattern. I put 4 of therm on the '02 Trep R/T on cheap aluminum alloy rims, and the tires ran me $125 per tire with a discount, so they are pricey.
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I did alot of research on winter tires 3 years ago when I bought my Toyo Observe G03's. I was originally going to go with the Nokians as bongobobny mentioned, but the Toyo's were rated better by consumers. Compared to a Blizzak, the Toyo will lose in the first year. After that, the compound in the Blizzak begins to wear and change rapidly. So, in the long run the Toyo's beat out the Blizzaks. An interesting thing to note about the Toyo's is that the compound is empregnated with ground walnut shells. Walnut shells are saiid to be the next hardest substance after diamonds. These ground shells, act as sandpaper grit on your tires, giving great traction on ice. My tires are H rated and I don't have any loud humm or loss of confidence in them even at speeds of 90mph. And from a personal standpoint, I will never go another winter without snow tires on all four wheels. They are simply amazing compared to all-seasons. Hope this helps.

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Perhaps I should fly you out a set of brand new Blizzaks and you can try them for yourself, and then we'll see who's living in the past.
perhaps this is why the Dunlop Graspics got better ratings than the Blizzaks

Honest opinion though, I have driven with the Blizzak's on an AWD Subaru in dry, wet and snow conditions and was still very impressed with them, none of the "snow tire" behavior you talk about
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I had 2 Blizzak snow tires mounted on the front of my winter beater one year. HOLY COW did those tires handle well! So good that the rear end, that was not equiped with the Blizzak's always slid out, while the front stayed put! The night that I had them mounted, it snowed 3". Perfect timing. I know that there are others out there, but these Blizzak's performed well. Also, ask the tire shop to see if they'll include free tire change overs.
* I noticed that this year that they make you buy all 4 (Blizzak's)
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I need to get new winter tires as well. Michigan doesn't allow Tire chains as the roads already look like garbage.

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well i went with the blizzak a a first choice because i'm a very big bridgestone fan. i like the potenzas. the place i will get the tires, they do changeovers for free and there's a 1 year warranty on the tires for nails and such. my plan is to put winters on my steel wheels and then in the spring get high performance summer tires on alloy rims.
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I have Goodyear Regatta 2's...they haven't done me wrong yet. Got 'em on before last winter and they're still treadin' away in this one.
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winter tires are for bad drivers
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