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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 12-09-2003, 01:14 AM Thread Starter
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Question Fuel Rail recall done in 99, still leaks every cold winter..

Hello - first post, long time reader, couldn't quite find this exact situation in another thread..

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old school 1993 Intrepid 3.3L, 127K, fuel rail recall done 1/99
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A dangerous fuel spray/leak from around the manifold area (pass side) pops up whenever there's a cold morning out. I took it by the dealer when it started two winters ago, but of-course it never did it while there. Nothing was ever done, and the problem seemed to disappear (I still am suspicious if they fixed something without telling me then)

It started again this past winter. I took it to the dealer and they saw it first hand this time. They ended up replacing 1 Injector, and had all the O-Rings replaced. I had to pay all costs for this because the dealer said it could not possibly be the rail since they already did it. It did seem to be okay for some time after that.. They did "inspect" the rail, but quickly ruled it out.

But, with the cold, the problem is back again this winter. Gas seems to be spraying out in a mist form, from the pass. side of the manifold again. I can't quite tell where exactly it's coming from, but it looks the same as all the other times..

If this is indeed a fuel rail problem, would this be covered twice? I've read conflicting posts on this subject.. Would these O-Rings go bad so soon? A different leaky injector?

I just wanted to get another opinion on this before I take it back to get looked at - I always feel like I get the run-around at this place, and I'd definitely like it to take it somewhere different than where I am taking it. Problem is the next closest dodge service center is 2 hours away .//.

Thanks a lot for the help
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any other opinions on the dealer vs customer fuelrail recall issue?

Black94ES:

I saw your post (pasted below) from another recent thread - You mentioned the O-Rings also are recalled along with the rail.. My dealer gives me the run around saying only the rail is covered..

In your opinion (not going to quote you or anything), should the dealer replace the O-rings for free..? and could I possibly get a refund for when they charged me before back in 5/03?

any other opinions on the dealer vs customer recall issue?

thanks so much.




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There is a recall

Just take the car to the dealer and do it for free

recall on o-rings and fuel rails

*fuel rails fail often, so even if they say you're car has had the recall done, do it again. I've had mine replaced 3 times, pos...


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The dealer should fix it as many times as it fails. You should not have to pay for it just because they did it before and it failed again. I will say though that I have had very bad luck getting the dealer to do recall work, they always find a way to get around it and it always ends up costing me an obnoxious amount of money.
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On the recall notice I got from Chrysler, it says the o-rings have to be replaced

I'm not sure if I had my o-rings replaced more than once, lemme go check my records...

Parts replaced:
Fuel Rail
Gasket-FL (for fuel rail?)
O-rings
Gaskets-PL
Seal-DUST
Gasket-IN
Strap-AUX

I've had this done 3 times now.

I dunno what the designations mean. Also according to the recall notice it should take 1 1/2 hours. But given Chryslers great service you can expect to leave the car all day. I personally suggest you call them in 6 hours.

Remeber, if they refuse, threaten to call the Chrysler HQ in your area. I bet that'll get them workin on it quick.

Worse comes to worse, I'll find some way of scanning my original recall notice and e-mail it to you.

I think I posted it here before, but because of size restrictions it was unreadable.

Someone should really make a FAQ or a sticky about this.

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The dealer should fix it as many times as it fails. You should not have to pay for it just because they did it before and it failed again. I will say though that I have had very bad luck getting the dealer to do recall work, they always find a way to get around it and it always ends up costing me an obnoxious amount of money.
Until 2009 anyways, not sure if it's canadian law, but the manufacturer only has to do recall work 10 years from the date it was issued.
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I purchased a fuel rail recall kit. It does not contain fuel injector o-rings. Those are sold seperately. I tend to believe that the fuel injector o-rings are not part of the recall but are replaced anyway since the original recall pulls every other o-ring except the injector o-rings.

Mopar 05069022AA - Fuel rail o-ring kit $36.00
Contents are:
1 Plenum to intake gasket
2 fuel rail to intake gaskets
1 pr of o-rings (upper & lower) for the fuel pressure regulator
3 crossover/inlet tube o-rings
1 outlet tube o-rings
2 pieces of plastic to get epoxied to the fuel rail
4 zip ties to hold the epoxied pieces to the fuel rail
2 crossover plugs with o-rings installed

Mopar 5014872-AA - Epoxy $2.85
Epoxy for Gasket Package #5069022-AA
Note: Sold separately because the epoxy will harden eventually.

Mopar 5015972-AA - Injector o-ring kit $10.75
Contents:
6 upper injector o-rings
6 lower injector o-rings

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Originally posted by Black94ES
On the recall notice I got from Chrysler, it says the o-rings have to be replaced

I'm not sure if I had my o-rings replaced more than once, lemme go check my records...

Parts replaced:
Fuel Rail
Gasket-FL (for fuel rail?)
O-rings
Gaskets-PL
Seal-DUST
Gasket-IN
Strap-AUX

I've had this done 3 times now.

I dunno what the designations mean. Also according to the recall notice it should take 1 1/2 hours. But given Chryslers great service you can expect to leave the car all day. I personally suggest you call them in 6 hours.

Remeber, if they refuse, threaten to call the Chrysler HQ in your area. I bet that'll get them workin on it quick.

Worse comes to worse, I'll find some way of scanning my original recall notice and e-mail it to you.

I think I posted it here before, but because of size restrictions it was unreadable.

Someone should really make a FAQ or a sticky about this.
yeah, forget what I said. The recall is only for 3.5L engines (tis what it says on the notice)
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