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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 12-31-2003, 02:55 AM Thread Starter
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I have just arrived from Australia, and the time has come to buy a car. I am usually a Ford driver, but the only ford product i'd buy is a f150, and i don't realy need a truck nor can i afford one(i can borrow the father inlaws ;)) After much searching i am keen on the Dodge Intrepid, I like the styling, size and general design of the car, however i am concerned by some reliability issues i have read about, so i'm hoping a current owner can help me out a bit. The issues in particular would be, oil sludge, timing chain failure, and auto transmission. I have done a bit of research, and i myself believe that if a vehicle is maintained correctly you generally won't have any trouble other than regular maintanence, but there seems to be some horror stories out there. I have found a vehicle that i'd love to get. It's a 2000 Intrepid with 64000 miles, oil changed every 3k, it has a nice set of 17' wheels with 255 x45 Low Profile Tyres, and a kick *ss stereo system in it. The owner is asking $8500 for it. It's an awesome looking car at the right price, but the "reliability cloud" is still there. I was thinking that if i bought the car i would have a new timing chain fitted and have the oil flushed and replaced with a good synthetic oil, just as some preventative maintenance. Can anyone shed some light on my reliability concerns? Thanks in advance.
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Hey I just got back from Sydney the other day... do you think the Ford Falcon = Ford Taurus in the States?

I saw a couple of Futura's that was a pretty cool looking car... And hey forget about that following the speed limit shit they are into down under the states are for the speed demons

To answer your question I had an Intrepid for about 2yrs... took it in quite a few times under warranty and was scared enough reliability wise to turn it in for a G35...

One thing if you are buying used you can get a great deal because the car has no resale value... mine was an ES with 40K miles and I only got 8,500 for it in trade. What I would suggest is to avoid the 2.7L. It definitely has some issues definitely worth the extra $$$ to get an ES. As you can see from my trade in story they aren't worth anything either. So you should be able to get a good deal.


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Lots of guys on here with 100K plus on their vehicles, regular upkeep, mtce, and a switch to fully synthetic oils, goes a long way. Do some searches and the threads are all there. I just bought a 2002 SE, absolute dream!!! Wife loves it, I miss it!!!!
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Well the fact that they are both 4 door sedans is pretty much where there similarity ends, although the Falcon is definitely a car that should be on sale here in the US. While the Taurus is V6 and Front wheel drive, the Falcon is powered by either a 4Ltr I6 available naturally aspirated or in turbo version or a 5.4Ltr V8. And it is also available in Ute form (Truck). Check out www.ford.com.au, www.fpv.com.au, and http://www.djr.com.au/frame.html, and look at the story on the 320 Falcon. A 435hp beast hehe

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Hey I just got back from Sydney the other day... do you think the Ford Falcon = Ford Taurus in the States?

I saw a couple of Futura's that was a pretty cool looking car... And hey forget about that following the speed limit shit they are into down under the states are for the speed demons

To answer your question I had an Intrepid for about 2yrs... took it in quite a few times under warranty and was scared enough reliability wise to turn it in for a G35...

One thing if you are buying used you can get a great deal because the car has no resale value... mine was an ES with 40K miles and I only got 8,500 for it in trade. What I would suggest is to avoid the 2.7L. It definitely has some issues definitely worth the extra $$$ to get an ES. As you can see from my trade in story they aren't worth anything either. So you should be able to get a good deal.
He's back, let the Yankee bashing resume!!!!

Anyways, welcome to the boards, like everybody else said, synthetic oil, don't buy a 2.7, and these cars will be wonderful to you. Great ride with enough power to keep most people happy,
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The Intrepid is an excellent value as a used car but the price you quoted sounds high with that mileage. Do your homework and look around. Ebaymotors.com is a good place to look.

The concerns you mentioned are with the 2.7 Liter V6 which is the most common engine. For many of us it has been trouble free but there is a significant number of premature engine failures. The ES model has a larger engine. Also consider the Chrysler 300M.
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He's back, let the Yankee bashing resume!!!!

Anyways, welcome to the boards, like everybody else said, synthetic oil, don't buy a 2.7, and these cars will be wonderful to you. Great ride with enough power to keep most people happy,
Not back in the US... back in Singapore will be back in Boston Jan 10... but hey continue with the Yankee bashing never a good reason to stop that
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Well the fact that they are both 4 door sedans is pretty much where there similarity ends, although the Falcon is definitely a car that should be on sale here in the US. While the Taurus is V6 and Front wheel drive, the Falcon is powered by either a 4Ltr I6 available naturally aspirated or in turbo version or a 5.4Ltr V8. And it is also available in Ute form (Truck). Check out www.ford.com.au, www.fpv.com.au, and http://www.djr.com.au/frame.html, and look at the story on the 320 Falcon. A 435hp beast hehe
Yeah I saw XR6 Turbos and XR8's but it looked so much the same as a Taurus that I thought it was the same car.

Are you shocked by the way Americans drive? I spent 2hrs behind the wheel Sydney to Hunter Valley and didn't see any cars doing anything but creeping a bit above the 110 km speed limit... even here in Singapore they speed like anything

Of course maybe speeding is just a Massachusetts thing... the speed limit is mostly 55mph but everyone is doing 85 in the left lane.
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It's a 2000 Intrepid with 64000 miles, oil changed every 3k, it has a nice set of 17' wheels with 255 x45 Low Profile Tyres, and a kick *ss stereo system in it. The owner is asking $8500 for it. It's an awesome looking car at the right price
Have you ran a carfax on this Intrepid yet? To check out the car's history that is. Your best bet would be to have a mechanic buddy first check the car out... no problems? I'd get it 2.7L or not... get the oil flushed out, add Mobil 1 synthetic oil, get a new timing chain installed, and you'll be on your merry way. Let us know what you decide.
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"Are you shocked by the way Americans drive? I spent 2hrs behind the wheel Sydney to Hunter Valley and didn't see any cars doing anything but creeping a bit above the 110 km speed limit... even here in Singapore they speed like anything"

One thing that amazes me is there seems to be absolutely NO road side speed cameras here. Back in the cities of Australia they are everywhere and the cause of much debate as to their benefit. The Government will tell you they are detering drivers from speeding, and therefore they are less likely to be involved in a serious accident and injurijng themselves and other motorists. But most will tell you that they are nothing more than revenue raisers or "Road Side Cash Registers" They are EVERYWHERE in the UK also, a lot of them fixed. So i guess they work in slowing down the traffic, however there has been recent studies suggesting that they may actually cause more accidents than what they save because it's gotten to a stage where drivers are paranoid about the speed they are doing that they are watching their speedo more than they watch the road. In Melbourne for instance, you'll get fined if you go only 3kph over they limit and get points against your license.

California could solve the budget problem overnight if they put half a dozen cameras along the major freeways here and fine everyone just $10 for speeding lol. NO-ONE here seems to drive at the speed limit. When i first drove here i tried to stick to the speed limit, as that is what i'm used to doing, and i got left in the dust lol. So i just figured... when in Rome Etc etc
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$$$$$$

OK... i just rang the local Dodge dealer... and was quoted $600 - 800 just in labour to replace the timing chain and water pump!! I knew there was a reason i didn't like taking my vehicle to a mechanic lol. The price for the parts seemed pretty good tho $140 for the chain. Does anyone know of the difficulty involved in doing the job? I've done most of my own mechanical repairs on previous cars without any problems. Any help greatly appreciated. If i had to go pay someone to do this i think it'd put me off getting the car.. it's a bit more than i can afford right now.

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Don't just replace the chain & water pump!!! You should also replace the oil pump along with the chain tensioner and guides. If you don't do it now, you'll most likely be doing all over agian soon anyway. Get it all done right the first time!

I have the part numbers and prices to buy them online if you need them. Just shoot me a PM.
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Get a GM!!! lol
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yea.. if you replace the timing chain, the oil pump, and ESPECIALLY THE WATER PUMP (THE SOLO/ONLY CAUSE FOR ANY SLUDGE IN THE 2.7L ENGINE), you will have a strong driving, reliable engine.
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Thats rediculous. Timing chain, oil pump and water pump are not scheduled maintenance items. If you feel that unconfident in the engine that you would do this much work day one, find a different car with a different engine.
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