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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 11-01-2004, 12:33 AM Thread Starter
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Heater question....

Hey all, since this is going to be my first winter driving....im kinda looking for tips on how to get fast heat in the car.

My question is when does the heater kick in? I've noticed that my heat doesnt come full blast until my engine is fully warmed up. 3/4 of my trip are spent freezing in my seat, and to remind u, temperatures are still only mild, not even below freezing.

Maybe im using the heater wrong? I usually set it @ 28C on my ATC with front defroster only. It doesnt feel or smell like the heater is working. Ive noticed that the other cars that ive been in (both 1990 and lower), there is usually a slight burning smell coming from the vents when the heater is put at high.

So if anyone wants to share their info on getting fast heat, please share lol.

PS. i happened to put the compressor on by accidnet about 2 weeks ago while putting the temp at 32C. It took me about a minute to notice before i turned it off. Did i screw up my compressor? The A/C doesnt seem to be as cool, but then again it is cold enough with the weather and all.
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First of all, its good to turn your A/C on at least once a week to keep the compressor in working condition. Not using it for a long time, and then using it hard (in the summer) will put stress on a rested and possibly internally seizing part. So usage during cold seasons is not at all harmful.

Secondly, your heat doesn't begin to blow hot (or warm) until the engine really gets flowing. (after the thermostat opens). At this point, all of the coolant flowing through the heater core is reaching its max temp of 195. It is then that the heater core really begins to heat up, and the fan blows its heat at you. BUT, Its important to make sure that you have no air in your cooling system. To eliminate the air, it is imparative to bleed the system through the bleeder valve on the gooseneck (thermostat cover). when the car is running, (preferably warmed up) unscrew it lightly, and let the air come out. Close it back up after the air is cycled through, give it a few seconds, and open it up again quickly. Once its a solid stream of coolant, its bled. I had to do this last year after an overheat (my heat wasn't blowing hot). If this doesn't solve your problem, then a clogged heater core may be the culprit, but that's another story.

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according to the manual for my '04 'Trep, using the defroster activates the AC system, to dehumidy the interior air, to prevent fogging due to condensation. ( I never realized it before I read it, but it does make sense).

your car warms up faster when it is under load. therefore start your car let it idle for a couple of minutes ( I usually allow the rpms to drop down from fast idle), move the gear selector through form drive thru neutral into reverse, and back to drive.

my last car was a taurus with ATC, and the blower fan wouldn't activate until the temp started rising to avoid blowing cold air, I plan on letting my car run the first few minutes with the fan turned off.

then proceed.

I have never been a big fan of auto starters, ( had too many chrysler with blown headgaskets, '84 challenger, 85 - 600, 87 Daytona, 91 Spirit, 82 Omni) I seem to remember readings somewhere of the follies of letting your car run unattended.
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you might want to think about electric dip stick to keep oil warm and keep it pluged in at night also there are block heaters also you get a remote start and start it up 10-15 min. before putting your self in the car
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I see some info here that differs from my experience with ATC. I have it set on "AUTO" at 22 C, (=72 F) and rarely touch it. On a cold start I don't hear/feel the fan until the temp gauge starts to move. Then the fan comes on very slowly and I can feel a bit of heat. As more engine heat becomes available the fan increases speed, until the temp setting is achieved, then slows.
Most auto manufacturers recommend starting a cold car and driving it right away (but not aggressively) to obtain optimum mileage and engine life.
I cringe when I occasionally hear someone start a cold car, then immediately rev it to near redline to warm it faster.
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I still wait for my car to warm up in the morning. I give it about three minutes of idling before I go, even if I'm late for something. It seems like its less stressful on the car.
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I see some info here that differs from my experience with ATC. I have it set on "AUTO" at 22 C, (=72 F) and rarely touch it. On a cold start I don't hear/feel the fan until the temp gauge starts to move. Then the fan comes on very slowly and I can feel a bit of heat. As more engine heat becomes available the fan increases speed, until the temp setting is achieved, then slows.
Most auto manufacturers recommend starting a cold car and driving it right away (but not aggressively) to obtain optimum mileage and engine life.
I cringe when I occasionally hear someone start a cold car, then immediately rev it to near redline to warm it faster.

I agree !
that is how the taurus works.

I agree on the other comments as well, increase gas mileage as well, you can keep mpg instead of dwpg ( driveways per gallon )

Have a hard time convincing the wife and teenagers of this fact when complain about all the gas they use in the winter months, and they're letting the car warm up for 20 minutes for a 10 minute drive ! :fun_71:

usually an article at the start of the winter on winter driving in the Canadien newsppapers.
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