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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old 11-11-2006, 04:40 PM Thread Starter
 
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bad hose cylinder head

Okay so my hose cylinder head melted or tore open which i was told would keep my engine from even attepmting to start. So i can get power but when i try to start the car all i get is the starter clicking but the engine doesn't do anything.

So I replaced the hose cylinder head but I still have the same problem.

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Hose cylinder head? What is that?

Check your battery and battery cables. Make sure the cables are not loose, corroded, or the battery is bad. I would start there. Check all the connections.
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Its not a power issue, I have head lights, radio all that good stuff, plus the starter is getting power. The problem is the engine not wanting to try to turn over.

the replaced part is the hose that the oil runs to the engine. hose cylinder head is what my invoice from the dealership said (part number 4663792AB) I wanna say is that hose that runs to the PCV valve but I'm not sure if that is the correct way to say it
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Ah.... Hose, cylinder head. Where does the hose go?

Did you loose all your engine oil when the hose blew?

Have you tried turning the engine over by hand?
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I'm not sure if I lost all my oil because my buddy added a couple QTs when he was working on it, i'm assuming he did that because it lost a good amount.

How do you turn the engine over by hand?
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I'm not sure if I lost all my oil because my buddy added a couple QTs when he was working on it, i'm assuming he did that because it lost a good amount.

How do you turn the engine over by hand?

If you cant get it from the top you would have to crawl underneath and put a socket wrench on the crankshaft pulley bolt. Turn it with the wrench and see if it spins over relatively easily. If you lost all your oil its possible your engine seized.....
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Ok i will have to try that.

I'm assuming if it is seized thats pretty bad?
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and i guess now would be a good time to fill you in on the what happened in more detail:

I was driving and my car just shut down, everything but the lights and other electrical things. I got the car to the side of the road and about 15 seconds later I lost ALL power. My brother said the engine prob. shut down a couple miles back and i was just running on battery only, which eventully killed the batt. I don't know how true that is but the batt. is dead right now because i have not been able to get the engine to start to have the alt. charge it. When i test it I have it hooked up to one of those portable jump start things which gives it power to have my lights and all that stuff come on, but the engine still won't start.
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Ok i will have to try that.

I'm assuming if it is seized thats pretty bad?
Yeah, if it is seized, you will need a new engine. Hopefully not..

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and i guess now would be a good time to fill you in on the what happened in more detail:

I was driving and my car just shut down, everything but the lights and other electrical things. I got the car to the side of the road and about 15 seconds later I lost ALL power. My brother said the engine prob. shut down a couple miles back and i was just running on battery only, which eventully killed the batt. I don't know how true that is but the batt. is dead right now because i have not been able to get the engine to start to have the alt. charge it. When i test it I have it hooked up to one of those portable jump start things which gives it power to have my lights and all that stuff come on, but the engine still won't start.
This does sound like possibly a bad alternator, or a bad/cracked corroded battery cable. If your alternator went, your car would have been running just on the battery, and would stall and loose power once the battery ran out. I would check those battery cables, or at least charge the battery and see if it will start. If it starts when you charge the battery, have the alternator tested. If it still wont start, check the cables for cracks, heavy corrosion, etc, and put a wrench on the crankshaft bolt and see if the engine turns.

The thing that concerns me about your engine is you say you blew that hose for the cylinder head, and you were really low on oil as a result (oil cooler line possibly?) plus how it died on you going down the road. If you can find out exactly what that hose was for (or post pics of it) I can tell you more. Also see if you can find out how much oil was left in the engine. No sense in chasing this as an electrical problem when it could be a seized engine.


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Well it shouldn't be the alternator because that had to be replaced not even 3 months ago.

I'll have to try to manually turn the engine to see if it is seized but i'm just hoping its an electrical problem.

I just tried to jump it with my brothers truck but all i get is a clicking noise and the interior lights flicker.

Here are some pictures of the part i found to be damaged:

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h5...DCFC0007-1.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h5...DCFC0006-1.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h5...DCFC0005-1.jpg

Obviously it looks fine because I have since replaced it, thinking that would fix my problem but nothing
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Yep, thats the PCV valve hose. Let me know what you find when you try to turn the engine.
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could be a starter if not a siezed engine like said before
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yeah i just hope its the stater. Its hard to get to the CS so I'm gonna test it later today hopefully.

Is the starter clicking a bad sign for the starter? Or is it supposed to do that.
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yeah i just hope its the stater. Its hard to get to the CS so I'm gonna test it later today hopefully.

Is the starter clicking a bad sign for the starter? Or is it supposed to do that.

I dont really think it is the starter because you died going down the road. It would be more likely to be the starter if you came out one morning and got "click click click". You can have it tested just to be sure.
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yeah the starter probaly isn't the issue. the way you guys put i'd be shocked if it wasn't a seized engine = (
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