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post #16 of 22 (permalink) Old 06-05-2019, 07:58 PM Thread Starter
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Could a faulty input or output speed sensor be the culprit? Throttle body is squeaky clean no binding at all.
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Could be the clock spring for cruise control. Read the Code definitions...there are three of them. Looks like with Code 34 read with the CEL flashes has 3 possibilities. Notice the definitions indicate the specific DRB code reading. Two ore the CC switch low or high voltage detected. The 3rd is the Servo.
You are correct.

If the clock spring is causing the horn or the c.c. problem, itís not the usual simple opening of the traces. Take a look at the diagram of the 1st gen. c.c. switch assembly and its clock spring traces below. If either of the clockspring traces opens (breaks), the switch reading circuit doesnít see any change in its voltage - the circuit is still open just like with the trace not broken and all the switches in their normally-open condition.

For the c.c. switch output voltage to go higher than its normal voltage, something would have to be shorting the switch output wire to a higher voltage. That would have to be a very unusual short inside the clock spring or somewhere else in the wiring.

The spontaneous honking of the horn also could not be due to a clock spring wire opening (breaking). It would have to be due to a short either inside the clock spring or somewhere else in the wiring. Again - that would be a very unusual failure mode of the clock spring.

I will be interested in finding out what the cause or causes turn out to be. If replacing the clock spring fixes those problems, again, it will have to be more than the usual flex fatigue fracture of the clock spring traces. If that does turn out to be the case, I donít expect anyone to take it apart to see what actually happened inside it that was more than a simple fracture. Like I said, a fracture of the traces could not cause those symptoms. (A simple fracture would cause the horn not to work, but it could not cause the horn to blow with no-one pressing the horn switch.

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Hereís The diagram of the c.c. switch assy. and the clock spring traces:

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Here's my game plan tomorrow... 1st replace the clockspring and see if that solves the problem. 2nd If no change replace both input & output speed sensors. If that doesn't solve the problem then it's gotta be the servo.
At what point do you stop throwing money at a car and say screw it. Parts for these 1st gens are scarce and at times expensive. Will it ever be a classic collectable? I just wonder why this car can't be as reliable as my 97 Ram with nearly 220,000 odo all original powertrain?
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It won't be a classic in our lifetimes if ever. I keep throwing parts at mine as long as they're cheap and relatively easy to replace. It is still going but I always assume the end is near.
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Success!!! Cruise Control is back! And believe it or not it was... The clockspring. 1st, new speed sensors went in which solved the high idle issues, but not the cruise. 2nd went to O'Reilly's to rent a steering wheel puller and replaced the clockspring I bought at LKQ pick n pull. Turned the key now I have cruise and the stalk cancels again! Also no more codes! Thank you all for your suggestions, This forum is amazing. Hope everyone has a wonderful weekend.
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I really blew it! LOL!

Again, for your horn to blow due to a bad clockspring, it really has to be messed up. The usual clockspring failure is the conductors to open. Same with the c.c. code.

Thatís my story and Iím sticking to it.

Glad you got it all fixed!
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