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My '94 Eagle Vision TSI (WIP)

Okay, I took these pics today after giving her a good wash. The quality isnt too bad, I used the iphone.

This is my '94 Eagle Vision TSI 3.5L, fully loaded for it's time. Idling around 600 rpm. It's sitting at 323k on the Odo. I'm not sure what tire size they came with stock, but right now I'm running 225's on all 4's. Only mod I have now is just a cone.
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Looks nice !! I always liked this combinaison of colors !
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Thanks man, I'll be making a list soon of what I should be looking for when I start hitting up the junk yards. It's all mostly internal cabin related aesthetical stuff. I've got big plans for this car, but before all that. I want to make sure everything is working good mechanical wise. In the meantime, I'm not paying too much attention to external looks.
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its not in bad shape. after a good cleaning it should look great!
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Okay, I took these pics today after giving her a good wash. The quality isnt too bad, I used the iphone.

This is my '94 Eagle Vision TSI 3.5L, fully loaded for it's time. Idling around 600 rpm. It's sitting at 323k on the Odo. I'm not sure what tire size they came with stock, but right now I'm running 225's on all 4's. Only mod I have now is just a cone.
tire size,, 225-60-16, H rated
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very nice ride, what are your plans/mods?
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Idling around 600 rpm.
That's a pretty low idle. Or does the 3.5 idle lower than the 3.3?
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Mine is at 800 at idle.
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In the works:

Tune up, front lower ball joints, alignment.



Planning:

Upgrading the ITBs (as big as they go, somebody mentioned to me they only go as big as 71.2mm).

I'm going to go to a shop to figure this one out if it's doable. You guys know about the manifold, where the air intake pipe goes from one pipe and splits to both ITBs. Well, I want custom piping, that will allow both CIA cones to be placed on either side of the engine bay. Plan on having a custom made hood, holes cut for cones and boxed in with a fiberglass housing air ram scoops. I've seen this done on some cars, and I think it looks great.

Upgrading to CIA (Cold Air Intake), with cone shoved down as low as possible. I'll be installing an aluminum shield on the under carraige of the car. (Assuming the whole custom CIA piping will work, as mentioned in the above layout)

Weight reduction, since there's not much play with the engine itself, I have one option left. That's to reduce as much weight as possible. Beginning with that thin layer of sheet metal on the floor bed of the car. I've done it with my brother in law in his '89 Civic. All we did was hammer and chisel off the sheet metal. That'll allow me to hear the exhaust better as well.

Exhaust - From what I understand the 3.5L's exhaust is 2.25 inches in diameter. I was thinking of going with a 3 inch exhaust (high flow cat, with zero resonators) OR (straight pipe, no cat, no resonators) And I'm planning on using dual Flowmaster 80s.

I'm also looking at custom rims, 9 inches wide in the rear, and something smaller in the front.

Catch Can system.

Suspension, whome I've already spoken with about it. Not much options overall, but I'm going to do what I can to the car. As for body, it's mostly going to appear as a sleeper.

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I just don't know where to begin...

There is no way you will be able to machine the throttlebody to 71mm. The stock throttlebody is a 46mm unit. Even if you managed to find something that would be that big to bolt on, the manifold opening can't be machined that big.

The information you are finding about the 71mm thottlebody is for the 98 and later motors. The upper manifold is plastic and only has one throttle body.

Dual CAI is a waste of money/time. It has been done and wasn't found to be as helpful as you think.

I'm not even going to start on the whole exhaust argument. 3 inches is overkill.

WHY are you going to put a 9 inch wide tire on the rear on a FRONT wheel drive car?



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Also, I don't think it would be a good idea to remove the metal off of the bottom of the car. To reduce weight, I would start by ditching the A/C compressor and condenser. I would pull out the back seats before chiseling off the bottom of the car, though, just sounds like a mess.
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I totally hear where you guys are coming from, and I don't get me wrong. I appreciate any criticism.

These are only ideas I'm throwing around until I settle on something solid.

The reason for the 3 inch exhaust, I'm looking to give it a little bit more of a throaty sound. Yeah, I can't remember where I heard or read about the 71.2mm ITBs. If that's the case, it'll stay stock.

Regarding the 9 inch tires in the rear, I personally think it'll add more attitude towards the overall look I'm going for.
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Dual 2.25" sounds like a beast and is what most of the Gen 2 3.5 guys run....3" would only be appropriate for a single exhaust. I'd imagine 3" duals would be *bad* for low end torque.

These cars are some of the lightest vehicles of their size and as such have no surplus metal on the underside. DO NOT cut or modify metal here. You could severely impact crash protection structures or decrease your handling by introducing excessive body flex. You *might* be able to strategically cut holes without killing your structural rigidity but then you're asking for rust and water intrusion at the very least. Don't do it. The door panels are pretty much hollow inside as well...there aren't many meaningful changes possible here either. Put down the saw and look elsewhere for performance.

Removing the rear seat and the spare tire are your best bets for reducing mass. You can reduce weight by well over 100lbs if these are removed and the change can be reversed after the race.

The 300M Special, a car with a 41HP advantage uses only 8" tires. (245/45 18"). 9" is overkill, extremely expensive and will cause your fuel economy to drop noticeably.

A 52mm TB is about the max you can do. Grab a couple off of 3.3/3.8 Caravans...some assembly required so beware. (Chewie is our expert here!) The real potential is in the heads.....that's the biggest difference on the Gen 1 vs Gen 2 3.5 performance wise. (yes, Gen 2 is all Aluminum but that doesn't account for the HP...there's a good 20-30HP in the heads)

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