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post #1 of 25 (permalink) Old 11-07-2010, 03:55 PM Thread Starter
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Replace steering column assembly on ES

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I am looking for general input for replacing a steering column. My car was stolen and the ingnition switch was broken out. The housing around the ingnition cylinder is broken pretty bad. I have had it apart and the steering column assembly needs replaced. I can locate a reconditioned one that should work. I am not sure how to get the steering wheel off and what I need to do to work around and to avoid setting off the air bag. Any input would be appreciated. Joe
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To avoid setting off the airbag, just remove the ground on the battery and wait abut 15 minutes. as far as removing the column, I would just follow the FSM for step by step instructions. It's not too difficult.

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Be aware that you have to keep the steering column shaft from spinning once it is uncoupled from the input coupling to the steering rack. If you don't lock the shaft from spinning and the shaft spins, the clock spring will be destroyed *instantly*. I believe the FSM warns you of this too.

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Thanks for the feedback and the FSM link. I found a used steering column and have removed the ignition switch from the used steering column. I will replace the damaged switch with the reclaimed one. I think this should be a lot easier than replacing the entire column. Regards, Joe
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Rather than make a new thread, I'll just piggy back off this one. From the FSM is states:

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NOTE: This procedure is to be used when replacing the steering column. It is written to reflect that objective. If the column is to be removed as one assembly, or without removing the steering wheel, the steering wheel must be turned from the straight ahead position to the RIGHT 180° and locked in place.Lock the column in this position by removing the key from the key cylinder. This MUST be performed before the steering coupler to the gear is disconnected.
I want to replace my column but use the wheel I have on the new column. So I lock it 180 degrees from stock and remove the old one but how do I ensure that I won't damage the clock spring on the new unit when installing it? Just make sure the yellow indicator is in the right place? I'd rather not go through the whole centering procedure seen below. Just to make sure, I remove it in the 180 degrees (upside down) location from stock, install it 180 from stock (upside down), and then install the wheel back on in this upside down position? Probably straight forward when I get into it, but I just want to verify.

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CAUTION: If any doubt is present as to whether the clockspring is properly centered, This clockspring centering procedure MUST be performed prior to installing steering wheel assembly. If clockspring is not centered it may be overextended, causing clockspring assembly to become inoperative. The yellow centering indicator must be present in the centering window of the clockspring and the arrow on the clockspring must be pointing at the drive pin. (19) Center the clock spring using the following
procedure. ² Depress the plastic locking pin to disengage clockspring locking mechanismthe clockspring rotor in the CLOCKWISE DIRECTION to the end of the travel. Do not apply excessive torque. ² From the end of clockwise travel, slowly rotatethe rotor in the counterclockwise direction until yellow appears in the centering window of clockspring. When yellow appears in the centering window the arrow on the clockspring will be pointing at the drive pin on clock spring rotor. ² Engage the clockspring locking mechanism
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Lock both columns upside down (180 off center).

Remove your old wheel.
Remove your old column.

Install new column.

Remove new wheel.

Install your old wheel.
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Lock both columns upside down (180 off center).

Remove your old wheel.
Remove your old column.

Install new column.

Remove new wheel.

Install your old wheel.
Thanks! I'm assuming the lock cylinder can be removed from the column in the car after it's been locked at 180 correct? New column doesn't have the clock cylinder, so I need to pop my current lock cylinder into it in order to lock it before installing into the car.
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Actually, I would do the cylinder last.
It is very easy to remove and install.
Key goes in and you turn it, like, one notch or so and then depress the button on the underside and it slides out.

So...
swap the columns
swap the wheels
swap the cylinder
then hook all the electornics and cables up
then hook up the battery
then cross fingers lol
then see if you interlock mechanism works

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I can't get the cylinder out when the steering wheel is in locked position. How do I get the new column to go into locked position when it has no cylinder with it? Don't I need a key cylinder in each column to get them both into 180 locked position?


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The new column has no cylinder and no lock spring, correct?
If so, it does not have to be locked. It doesn't matter.

If the new column has a clock spring, then remove it so that it does not have to be locked.

Install the new column.
Install your lock cylinder.
Install the clock spring.
Lock the wheel so that it does not turn when you install your wheel in the upside down position.
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The new column has no cylinder and no lock spring, correct?
If so, it does not have to be locked. It doesn't matter.

If the new column has a clock spring, then remove it so that it does not have to be locked.

Install the new column.
Install your lock cylinder.
Install the clock spring.
Install your wheel in the upside down position.
No clock spring on the new column. I wasn't sure if anything else would be damaged even if the clock spring was already removed. Thanks!
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Once you remove the clock spring, the wheel can spin freely all day long.
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lol @ advance auto puller that I rented. Not even CLOSE to what is needed to remove the wheel. Time to check Oreilly and auto zone.


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Used the puller from O'Reillys and it worked perfect. Now I'm looking at these screws which look like the end of a T20 screw driver which secure the ignition switch to the column. Tried to grip the end with pliers, and no dice. Smallest socket I have is a 4mm, so how do I removes these "screws"? Take a T20 screw, fit it over the head of theses screws, grab the threads with pliers and turn lol?!


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Those screws will require a female torx socket. I loosened one with pliers or something once while messing around. Maybe a small socket might work

edit - leaving original ^^^ intact to remind me how stupid I can be. I read your post above, but obviously didn't READ your post above. Do the 12 point sockets get small enough for that?

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