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Sad Is This A Mission Impossible Job? This 2.7

I have did all I could, searched everywhere I possible can, Online, Browsed through all the Service manuals, Searched every topic on every Dodge Community website I could find.. Why does it seem Like an Impossibility for Me to remove/detach the Block from the Transmission on this 2.7 engine. I can't believe not even the FSM on how to service these 2.7 engines failed to include Details on how to detach the Block from the Trans. I could see the 2 Bolts on each side (i.e the driver & passenger side) Already took those off, and loosened the Engine Mounts, But nothing seems to be Moving. I was told by someone that I have to fish through the holes on the Flex Plate to remove some bolts holding the Block to the Trans, but that didn't even sound right to Me, I'm not messing with the Trans, So I didn't see any logic in going that far/route. But I went ahead anyway to try that, & like I doubted, as I rotate the Crack, looking @ the Flex plate, I don't even see any Bolts through any of the Holes, so that's a dead end... Also on the drivers side where the Alternator & P/S, Bolts onto, along side the Thermostat housing, is also a Pain in the Butt to Remove, I have tried to see if there's a way to Remove them all as a Unit,??. Bcos is actaully very difficult to remove them one by one..
Idk what else to do, I have took some photos of the flex plate, the top & around the Block, Please if any of You good people can Point Me an Arrow On which side or where the Bolts I need to remove is located, Please help Me.

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The bolts you need to remove are the torque Converter to FlexPlate. You have to get at them from the transmission side of the flex plate. That's the side opposite of what you're showing in the pictures. There should be a small inspection plate you remove from under the transmission bell housing. Then you get at the bolts from that side.
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Ronbo, Isn't that one of the four bolts, right there in the picture wth the 10.9 inscribed on it, that has to come out?


IMPALAWITME,
You have already removed the brace plate.
There is no inspection plate on the bottom side of the bell housing.
The bell housing is solid all the way around.

There are four of those that bolt the flex plate to the torque converter.
Remove the one you have in the photo, rotate the crank, remove the next one, repeat until all four are out.

There are at least four tranny to block bolts across the back of the engine.
These four screw into the block through holes in the bell housing.
A breaker bar comes in real handy on these four.

There are two dead center under the throttle body and one on each side.

There are two or three holding the starter (three depending on the year).

There are two on each side that screw into the bell housing through the block.

Then the four flex plat to TC bolts.
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...There are four of those that bolt the flex plate to the torque converter.
Remove the one you have in the photo, rotate the crank, remove the next one, repeat until all four are out...
I believe you are correct - item 25. I bought some before my engine swap:
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I could see the 2 Bolts on each side (i.e the driver & passenger side) Already took those off, and loosened the Engine Mounts, But nothing seems to be Moving
thats only 1/2 the bolts.
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I had my bearings mixed up. Yes that's one of the torque converter to flex plate bolts in the picture. There are a couple more block to transmission bell housing that you haven't found/pictured yet.
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I want to say there are 8 bolts along the back of the engine to the transmission housing. Same bolts hold the harness bracket in place along the back of the engine. You may need to remove everything you can to get to the bolts, they are not easy to reach and you will be lucky to get a 1/4 turn at a time to getting them out. I remember having some words for chrysler / dodge when I was removing my 2.7 for the 3.5 swap
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Ronbo, Isn't that one of the four bolts, right there in the picture wth the 10.9 inscribed on it, that has to come out?


IMPALAWITME,
You have already removed the brace plate.
There is no inspection plate on the bottom side of the bell housing.
The bell housing is solid all the way around.

There are four of those that bolt the flex plate to the torque converter.
Remove the one you have in the photo, rotate the crank, remove the next one, repeat until all four are out.

There are at least four tranny to block bolts across the back of the engine.
These four screw into the block through holes in the bell housing.
A breaker bar comes in real handy on these four.

There are two dead center under the throttle body and one on each side.

There are two or three holding the starter (three depending on the year).

There are two on each side that screw into the bell housing through the block.

Then the four flex plat to TC bolts.
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Are Those Even Bolts? Or Even Bolted On? I mean the ones with the "10.9" engraved on'em..
Lawd knows that I have tried to turn those THINGS and they aren't even moving, let along trying to come out. I Mean are those the "Flex Plate To Torque Converter" bolts? Cos it doesn't seem like it to Me. Those things [Bolts] looks like they are Welded on, I nearly Stripped My Socket trying to remove them.. Can some one PPLLEEAASSEEE Show Me which ones are the bolts that I need to remove, B4 I go Loco.
I Took the Block Out Yesterday & Shot some Vid Of it, Its on Youtube, Check it Out Ya'll & See if its better to See than the Photos.
https://youtu.be/9kMCGT7rzUg

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The bolt marked '10.9' in your first two photos. They have thread locker on them. Needs some heat? Put 4 lb. hammer to wrench for impact? Lefty-loosey (turn/knock wrench to your right looking to rear of vehicle since wrench is hanging down) - CCW looking to the rear of vehicle.

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The bolt marked '10.9' in your first two photos. They have thread locker on them. Needs some heat?
Yep. Sorry. Forgot about that. I have always used a small propane torch to heat
them up before breaking them loose. The heat loosens the blue thread locker.
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