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I am thinking of adding radio steering wheel controls to my 2000 ES.

Can someone tell me what models and years had these?

Going to use it with a PC, not the radio so I believe I just need the controls clockspring with the wires.

Are there any issues with the wheel itself or airbag where they would need to be changed out?

Anyone have pics. I can't seem to find pics what it looks like.
How is it integrated with the cruise controls? Or were the cruise controls stick mounted?

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You should limit your search to:
1998 - 2001 LHS (some of them had it)
1999 - 2001 300m (I believe all of them had it)
1998 - 2001 Concorde (most of the high end models had it)
1998 - 2001 Intrepid (ES and R/T, some of them had it)

Chrysler did change the air bag connector around 2001 / 2002 so, it makes it easier to look for one with the same connector as your current airbag connector.
A clockspring from 2002 - 2004 will not work for your model year.

If you remove and install the part yourself, you need to point the wheels straight ahead, then turn the wheel 180 degrees to the right and allow it to lock.
This sets the clockspring in the correct position to be removed and re-installed. There are instructions on the face of the clockspring that mention this, too.

Both versions of the clockspring have connectors for the cruise buttons and the airbag. The version you are looking for just has a few more wires.
Remove the old one. Remove the new one. Plug and play.
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I'm petty sure the only year that will have a 7 wire clockspring is 2001 for your application. 1998-2000 didn't have steering wheel audio controls. It was introduced in 2001.

Cruise control switches are actually using different resistance readings that's relayed to the BCM to interpret which switch was pressed. It's the same setup for the Audio controls. You have two rocker switches and a button on the center of each switch. There are only two wires in the closckspring associated with those two rocker/push buttons for six functions.

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Also the Audio controls are mounted to the back of the steering wheel on the back cover.

So you'd need a new back cover and the switches along with the 7 wire clockspring.

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Also the Audio controls are mounted to the back of the steering wheel on the back cover.
That's what was messing me up. Every pic I found never showed them but I found a video of someone saying they are in the back.

Now comes the hunt to find the parts.

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I'm not sure if the stock audio controls are going to be suitable for your application. Remember all the switch functions are Multiplexed and are determined by the resistance of the individual switch across 2 wires.
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I'm not sure if the stock audio controls are going to be suitable for your application. Remember all the switch functions are Multiplexed and are determined by the resistance of the individual switch across 2 wires.
Thanks for the help.

This is what I was thinking of.

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I am thinking of adding radio steering wheel controls to my 2000 ES.

Can someone tell me what models and years had these?

Going to use it with a PC, not the radio so I believe I just need the controls clockspring with the wires.

Are there any issues with the wheel itself or airbag where they would need to be changed out?

Anyone have pics. I can't seem to find pics what it looks like.
How is it integrated with the cruise controls? Or were the cruise controls stick mounted?

Thanks
How are you expecting to use the OEM audio controls with a PC? What is it that you're expecting to control on this PC? Again...these aren't just plain switches that are On/Off.

When used in the OEM Infinity stereo they're multiplexed. The BCM interpretes the resistance of the switch activated across the PCI Bus to determine what switch was pressed and executes the the command function.

Like I said there are 6 different functions across the two audio switches and the BCM determines what was activated. You would probably be wasting your money to acquire these parts to set up a CarPC interface.

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How are you expecting to use the OEM audio controls with a PC? What is it that you're expecting to control on this PC? Again...these aren't just plain switches that are On/Off.

When used in the OEM Infinity stereo they're multiplexed. The BCM interpretes the resistance of the switch activated across the PCI Bus to determine what switch was pressed and executes the the command function.

Like I said there are 6 different functions across the two audio switches and the BCM determines what was activated. You would probably be wasting your money to acquire these parts to set up a CarPC interface.
The link a couple posts above is the hardware that I will need. The hardware with the software that comes with it, you specify the resistances to what function you want to do in the computer.


The switches will be mapped to whatever key press on the keyboard I want (via the difference of the resistance in the switches)

Using it to trigger voice input (play Artist, play SiriusXM, Navigation, what have you)
Then the basics track forward, track previous, vol up & down etc.

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The link a couple posts above is the hardware that I will need. The hardware with the software that comes with it, you specify the resistances to what function you want to do in the computer.


The switches will be mapped to whatever key press on the keyboard I want (via the difference of the resistance in the switches)

Using it to trigger voice input (play Artist, play SiriusXM, Navigation, what have you)
Then the basics track forward, track previous, vol up & down etc.
Interesting. That could also be used to control autostick using radio control switches, a non-autostick shifter and autostick cluster.
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I wanted to make sure I get the correct clock spring.
It looks like part number 04649400AA is the only 7 wire available for 2001-2004.

So the airbag connector will be different on my 2000?

Is that the only difference between the years?

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I wanted to make sure I get the correct clock spring.
It looks like part number 04649400AA is the only 7 wire available for 2001-2004.

So the airbag connector will be different on my 2000?

Is that the only difference between the years?
That sounds right.
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EDIT... If all else fails just break apart the connector to get the wires out
No mater what I couldn't get them out so so I took the better approach.



Thanks, went to the yard and got what I needed, I hope.


anyone know how to remove the individual wires from the connectors going to the clockspring?

I am trying to see where the locking tab is that needs to be moved and or bent so the wire will pull out.
Does the large red tab have anything to do with it?

I grabbed the 7 wire clockspring, switches with wires etc, and harness pigtail but I was hoping to add the 2 wires to the existing harness instead of splicing all the wires. Make sense?

Thanks again
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It works great, I wish I did this years ago.

I had to spice in the 5 wire connector through, just the cruise & horn wires I believe (3) I left the airbag connector as is.

I wanted to add the 2 radio wires to my existing connector but it can't be done. I broke apart a 5 wire to get out the wires but still couldn't slide them into the old connector.
So I put in another 5 wire connector

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Also the Audio controls are mounted to the back of the steering wheel on the back cover.
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