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Question 0006 Driver Squib Circuit #1 Open.... ??

Hey guys, I just need a quick Help, 2000 Dodge Intrepid, AirBags deployed, and Were replaced, Previous Owner replaced the Driver side, I Replaced the Passenger side (Whole new dash). I Just wanna know, shouldn't replacing the AirBags automatically turn off the airbags Lights? or it needs one of those fancy scan tools to go inside and do some fancy/funny stuff to make the airbag light go out?
Please don't tell Me that the solution is replacing the Airbag Module in the Center console..!!! :x

I scanned the code and got 0006 Driver Squib Circuit #1 Open (I have no idea what that is) I tried erasing the code, but nope, came right back. I'm thinking Maybe they didn't connect the Driver side airbag connectors properly hence the Driver side code. But I just wanted to get this opinion to make sure that I won't be toiling in vain.

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Squib is name for a one-time-use device that is an electrically triggered explosive. Basically they are a wire fuse embedded in explosive material. To “blow” it, you run enough current thru the fuse to melt the fuse wire open and ignite the explosive. That’s how air bags are deployed. The squib circuit is the wiring that blows the fuse to set it off. So either there is a bad connection, or the fuse is already open, or the controller is bad.

It is possible that the resistance of the fuse is different for different year air bags - I don’t know that as fact - am just speculating. The air bag controller looks for a certain value resistance (of the fuse) to sense the presence of a good air bag. So if bad connection, or wrong resistance fuse, it gives the error.

Be careful working with the airbag and its wiring. An air bag going off in your face can cause serious injury. There are some horror stories out there. It is claimed that static discharge can set them off, and that people have been killed working on them. I don’t know if that’s true or not, but I wouldn’t want to find out the hard way.
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I’m not convinced that he didn’t run a stiff current thru the fuse vs. hitting it with static discharge, but, again, I don’t want to test the theory:

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Squib is name for a one-time-use device that is an electrically triggered explosive. Basically they are a wire fuse embedded in explosive material. To “blow” it, you run enough current thru the fuse to melt the fuse wire open and ignite the explosive. That’s how air bags are deployed. The squib circuit is the wiring that blows the fuse to set it off. So either there is a bad connection, or the fuse is already open, or the controller is bad.

It is possible that the resistance of the fuse is different for different year air bags - I don’t know that as fact - am just speculating. The air bag controller looks for a certain value resistance (of the fuse) to sense the presence of a good air bag. So if bad connection, or wrong resistance fuse, it gives the error.

Be careful working with the airbag and it’s wiring. An air bag going off in your face can cause serious injury. There are some horror stories out there. It is claimed that static discharge can set them off, and that people have been killed working on them. I don’t know if that’s true or not, but I wouldn’t want to find out the hard way.
Well in that case I wouldn't think it'll be a bad connection if there's a fuse that's supposed to blow when deployed.
Ok so where is this fuse located? In the Airbag itself or the Center Console module? And how do I know it when I see it?
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But as to My question though... So I have a basic understanding..
Generally when a deployed Airbag is replaced, is the AirBag light supposed to automatically go out (Assuming all conditions are met, i.e its replaced with the right parts, Same model year, eliminating differences is Fuse resistance e.t.c) Or it still needs reprogramming??
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Well in that case I wouldn't think it'll be a bad connection if there's a fuse that's supposed to blow when deployed...
I don’t understand your statement. The controller looks for the correct value resistance of the fuse. So there’s a loop from the controller thru one wire to the fuse, and back from the fuse to the controller with the second wire. *ANY* break in that loop (a broken wire, a bad connection thru a connector terminal, a burnt open or fractured fuse) will read open and result in the code. A wrong value resistance will cause the code.

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...Ok so where is this fuse located? In the Airbag itself or the Center Console module? And how do I know it when I see it?
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The squib is built into the bag. The explosive is the main component of the squib built into the bag. The fuse is embedded in the explosive. The fuse ignites the explosive by getting extremely hot (red hot), maybe even creates a spark, when it melts/burns open from a high current.

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But as to My question though... So I have a basic understanding..
Generally when a deployed Airbag is replaced, is the AirBag light supposed to automatically go out (Assuming all conditions are met, i.e its replaced with the right parts, Same model year, eliminating differences is Fuse resistance e.t.c) Or it still needs reprogramming??
I don’t know the answer to that. I would think programming isn’t needed, but I could be wrong.
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The airbag light will not go out on its own even after components are replaced, if a deployment has occurred, or one of the main airbags has been replaced due to deployment. The codes will have to be cleared with a scan tool.

You may need a new airbag controller; they are usually one time use. Once the bags are set off, the controller is done as well. For liability purposes. Older vehicles generally dont set a trouble code for this. Its been a long time and I dont remember for sure if this is the case on these cars.

Check the steering wheel clockspring as well; it is possible for them to be damaged when the airbags deploy depending on the situation.
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The airbag light will not go out on its own even after components are replaced, if a deployment has occurred, or one of the main airbags has been replaced due to deployment. The codes will have to be cleared with a scan tool.

You may need a new airbag controller; they are usually one time use. Once the bags are set off, the controller is done as well. For liability purposes. Older vehicles generally dont set a trouble code for this. Its been a long time and I dont remember for sure if this is the case on these cars.

Check the steering wheel clockspring as well; it is possible for them to be damaged when the airbags deploy depending on the situation.
Similar to what somebody suggested to Me as well. The common denominator here is The Controller as You called it or Module as the other called it is what I think needs replacing since it is a One time Use... 🤔
I can't remember if I got the Module from the car I got the Dash From, I probably did, But I surely don't know where it is now it's been over 2 Years. And getting a new/used Replacement is gonna cost more than I'm willing to Pay. SmH. I should've known.
I do have a scan tool than can read airbag codes and clear them, But when I clear that code, it comes right back.
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DRIVER SQUIB 1 CIRCUIT OPEN

When Monitored and Set Condition:
DRIVER SQUIB 1 CIRCUIT OPEN
When Monitored: With the ignition on the ACM monitors the resistance of the Driver
Squib 1 circuits.

Set Condition: The ACM detects an open circuit or high resistance in the Driver Squib 1
circuits.

POSSIBLE CAUSES
DRIVER AIRBAG OPEN
CLOCKSPRING SQUIB CIRCUITS OPEN
DRIVER SQUIB 1 LINE 1 OR LINE 2 CIRCUIT OPEN
ACM, DRIVER SQUIB 1 CIRCUIT OPEN
STORED CODE OR INTERMITTENT CONDITION
ACTIVE CODE PRESENT
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WARNING: TURN THE IGNITION OFF, DISCONNECT THE BATTERY AND
WAIT TWO MINUTES BEFORE PROCEEDING.
Disconnect the Airbag Control Module connector.
NOTE: Check connectors - Clean and repair as necessary.
Connect the appropriate Load Tool adaptor to the Airbag Control Module connector.
Disconnect the Load Tool from the Clockspring connector.
Measure the resistance of the Driver Squib 1 Line 1 and Line 2 circuit between the
ACM adaptor and the Clockspring connector.
Is the resistance below 1.0 ohms on both circuits?
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Yes ! Replace the Airbag Control Module in accordance with Service
Instructions. WARNING: IF THE AIRBAG CONTROL MODULE
IS DROPPED AT ANY TIME, IT MUST BE REPLACED.
Perform AIRBAG VERIFICATION TEST - VER 1.
No ! Repair open or high resistance in the Driver Squib 1 Line 1 or
Line 2 circuit.
Perform AIRBAG VERIFICATION TEST - VER 1.

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Maybe it needs a Squib multivitamin.
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Hi guys I'm back to report situation and sought advise. So, I went and removed the Airbag Module then Came to find out that I had replaced it, because It has "00 Concorde" written on it and then I remembered that When I bought the car the guy handed it to Me and I Swapped it out when I was changing the dash. But I still can't figure out why the Airbag light/code is still present.
Another interesting thing is, I was sourcing for another Module to buy from a 2000 Intrepid, I noticed that thier S/N's ended in "AD" and the sellers stressed that matching the Replacement the modules S/N's have to match and that It's not matched by Year, Rather by Serial Numbers... Now, the Module in the car now Ends with "AE" and I Would've loved to See what the Last 2 Letters in the Original Module says, But I don't have it, I think I must've threw it away cos it was no good. I don't know if that difference in Lettering has anything to do with

My point is, since its pointing towards the drivers Side Squib circuit, the Module couldn't be bad, If it was, I would expect that It would report problem in both the Driver and Passenger side Airbags that its controlling..??
So that led Me to think now that the Driver side Whole airbag "Might" be bad..... My next step(Idea) is to Swap My 300M Driver side Airbag into the Intrepid to see if the Code will go Away, If it does That would mean the Current Trep driver airbag is Bad..... But My question is, Will the 300M Airbag "work" in the Intrepid without extra effort?? Note that I said "Work" not Fit, I Know it will Fit, (Same Steering Wheel) But My concern is if there is anything Electrically different b/w the 300M Airbag and the Trep Airbag?? So I don't set it Off in My Face...



The outcome will let Me know if the Module is the Problem and whether to still go ahead and change the Module with the One ending in AD?
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I don’t know the answer to your question, but an FYI: S/N (serial number) is unique to each sample of a given part. The last two characters (letters) in the part number is a “suffix”, which is what the AE is. You could call that the version or revision of that part number.
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The two letter suffix on the part number won't affect the operation of the airbag. After all for example if your car were 5 years old and you went to the dealer they most likely wouldn't have the original part number in stock and have the later revisions which would work fine.

All LH driver airbags physically fit in any of the steering wheels. The only difference between year ranges is the connector pin shell. 1998-2001 and 2002-2004. There have been people that have swapped later year airbags into older year cars and just swapped the connector shells and had no issues. Internally the airbags electrically all look alike the the controller.

You either have a bad airbag or a wiring problem that could be anywhere from the controller to the airbag. Another thing to consider is that there was a wiring change in at least one year...maybe 2001 for the airbag controller. I remember looking it up for a member a long time ago and finding it. What year is the car again? What year controller is in there? Any dash wiring changes that don't match the original car model year?

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