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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 08-21-2010, 06:48 PM Thread Starter
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bolt on performance parts for my 00 3.5l ho swap

i was just curious with me having the engine out before the swap, do they have any bolt on performance parts i can install at this time.....

if they have any;
pulley kits
intake spacers

or anything that will dress up the engine bay....

thanks to all for the help, and i cant wait to get the swap done but i am going to take my time and make sure everything is in great condition i only like doing things once...
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If you got an extra lower intake Manifold, port it out. Changed the water pump, timing belt and EGR valve. I would clean the heck out of your throttle body and stand up the plenum to drain any oil. Not much bolt on items with this series, we try.

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You can get the crank shaft ASP Underdrive pulley (ASP.com i think..) , alternator Overdrive pulley (summit racing), intake spacer (PM KINGSPADE), find a bored out throttle body (maxbore.com), replace the engine ground straps with 4 gauge wire, put a new Thermostat in (160 degree available PM me if interested, keeps engine cooler)
Thermostat is a ridiculous pain with the engine in the car, and ASP Underdrive is a pain with the engine in the car. But before you put the ASP on, i agree on the timing belt, water pump, and timing belt tensioner.
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Tons of good info, yes I am interEsted in the thermostat, I was going to have maxbore do my tb for my 2.7 b4 the rod knock. I will b checking on those pulleys n spacer tho sound good to me...I already have a great exhaust n the K&n intake alone with a 0 gauge upgraded ground to the chassis n a 4 gauge to the block as I will use them for the 3.5ho
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You can get the crank shaft ASP Underdrive pulley (ASP.com i think..) , alternator Overdrive pulley (summit racing), intake spacer (PM KINGSPADE), find a bored out throttle body (maxbore.com), replace the engine ground straps with 4 gauge wire, put a new Thermostat in (160 degree available PM me if interested, keeps engine cooler)
Thermostat is a ridiculous pain with the engine in the car, and ASP Underdrive is a pain with the engine in the car. But before you put the ASP on, i agree on the timing belt, water pump, and timing belt tensioner.
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heres a good thought on the thermostat.. If you cant change what temperature the fans turn on at what good does the thermost do opening at 160. Just a thought from someone who has done over 20 lower temp thermostats....
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How can I change what temp the fan turns on at?
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heres a good thought on the thermostat.. If you cant change what temperature the fans turn on at what good does the thermost do opening at 160. Just a thought from someone who has done over 20 lower temp thermostats....
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well, as someone who had one of these in these cars it does literally drop the temperature on the gauge a half tick below normal during normal driving at all times. It makes the biggest difference if you race and are starting from cold. The engine would stay cool longer during the high RPM run.
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well, as someone who had one of these in these cars it does literally drop the temperature on the gauge a half tick below normal during normal driving at all times. It makes the biggest difference if you race and are starting from cold. The engine would stay cool longer during the high RPM run.
Difference when starting out cold and a high RPM run? Then why don't we just let our cars sit so the coolant temp is under 100 and fire them up, run them at 6500 rpm down the track and wonder why our rings and valve springs are shot.

This engine is not your 1970 small block chevy with a flex fan where everything functions better cooler. Has anyone every tried actually collecting data on this lower temp thermostat in this particular engine? Temperature not only plays a role in air fuel mixture but timing.

If your coolant is not allowed to stay in the radiator long enough for the fan to cool it down and is continuously circulating the engine will run warmer with the lower temp stat than it would with a OE temp stat unless your fan is programmed to work in conjunction with the stat setting.

Botom line if you are not changing your fan settings you are not changing much.
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How can I change what temp the fan turns on at?
You will have to see if anyone in the aftermarket offers a lower temp fan switch or have your PCM reprogrammed (which is ridiculously expensive for Chrysler and I am aware of 2 companys that are able to do them. If this is the only mod done it is not worth $350 to have your fans reprogamed.)
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do a search for shadowvox6 as the poster and the thred of 'proof a 160 tstat works'
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You may want a catch can. I don't know that there are any specifically for our car, but there are lots of generic ones that would work.
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You can get the crank shaft ASP Underdrive pulley (ASP.com i think..) , alternator Overdrive pulley (summit racing), intake spacer (PM KINGSPADE), find a bored out throttle body (maxbore.com), replace the engine ground straps with 4 gauge wire, put a new Thermostat in (160 degree available PM me if interested, keeps engine cooler)
Thermostat is a ridiculous pain with the engine in the car, and ASP Underdrive is a pain with the engine in the car. But before you put the ASP on, i agree on the timing belt, water pump, and timing belt tensioner.
i cant seem to find the pulley for the alternator overdrive pulley, i just got my asp pulley in the mail today it looks sweet..
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Nitrous oxide is a relatively simple bolt on that will boost your performance like nothing else. The offset is transmission life and the possibility of melting pistons or an unscheduled disassembly of the rods or crank.
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...If your coolant is not allowed to stay in the radiator long enough for the fan to cool it down and is continuously circulating the engine will run warmer...
I have read that stated by people several times before. As an engineer, that has never made any sense to me. Is it possible that that is a myth and people are just repeating the myth that they've heard? I can give physical laws that explain why that should not be so.

As far as the lower temp t-stat not accomplishing anything without also changing the fan turn-on temp., that would depend on if the t-stat more or less suddenly goes from fully closed to fully open at some point during warmup, or if (except under extremely hot conditions) the t-stat doesn't go to full open and stay there but instead modulates to help actually continuously regulate engine temperature. I've heard differeing opinions on whether it goes to full open and stays there or if it is an active part of closing the engine temperature control loop. ALSO - if it does in fact modulate to control the temperature, having a lower temp. t-stat would require the fans to run less, extending their life. Don Scruggs (Red Baron) claimed that he saw lower fan duty cycle and longer fan life after putting in the 160 t-stat.

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...and the possibility of melting pistons or an unscheduled disassembly of the rods or crank.
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Nitrous oxide is a relatively simple bolt on that will boost your performance like nothing else. The offset is transmission life and the possibility of melting pistons or an unscheduled disassembly of the rods or crank.
seeing how im replacing a motor that has a bad rod knock, i dont think so....

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