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Firstly,What is the diff. between first and second gen. Intrepid and how do I know which I have? I just bought a 1999 model 2.7 lit. with 55,000 miles,previously wrecked front end but fixed by profesional shop. Now it is time to go to work fixing little things on it.
1. Heater core was bypassed with hose connector so had new core put in.
2. Still no heat. A/C works great but only blows thru dash vents and wont change mode. Heated air will not come thru vents when heat/cold knob is turned. Core hoses hot on both sides.Ran diagnostic using Haynes book instructions but the blinking light that was supposed to go out after 30 seconds never went out and didn't give me any codes on the dash.
3. Right rear window will not roll up/down with door switch on rear door or driver door.
4. Window washer pump not moving fluid .
5. Driver door wedge speaker not as loud as other one.
6. Driver door lock will not turn when key is inserted but will lock and unlocked using elec. lock switch from inside. Key works in truck , pass. door, and ignition.
7.No support lifts for truck or hood.
8. Clear coat bubbled on rear deck lid and on roof.

Any help in any of these areas would be greatly appreciated. Main thing is heater and window washer, most of the other things are just annoyances. Thanks and have a great new year.

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welcome !!
simply put, the first gen cars are from 1993-1997
and the second gen cars are 1998-2004.
you have a second gen.
second gens are more rounded & bigger, first gens are a little smaller & more boxy. (comparatively)
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where was the car hit? That might help diagnose some of these problems.
2. Still no heat. A/C works great but only blows thru dash vents and wont change mode.

- might just be the head. Do you have one knob and a display (ATC)or 3 control knobs (MTC)?

3. Right rear window will not roll up/down with door switch on rear door or driver door.

Where was the car hit? Might need to trace the wiring back. I doubt both switches are bad.

4. Window washer pump not moving fluid .

Does it make any noise? Check the fuse/relay

5. Driver door wedge speaker not as loud as other one.

Two screws on the back, then slide the top piece off, two screws inside holding it to the door. Pop it apart and see if the speaker is ok.

6. Driver door lock will not turn when key is inserted but will lock and unlocked using elec. lock switch from inside. Key works in truck , pass. door, and ignition.

sounds like the cylinder is froze up. I've been meaning to look into ways to free them up myself, my trunk key doesnt turn.

7.No support lifts for truck or hood.

Easy to get from any autoparts store, local or online.


8. Clear coat bubbled on rear deck lid and on roof.

Only real answer there is needs paint! Cars spent too much time out in the sun and nasty rain.
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My wife is disabled(polio) and is 4'6" tall and I am 6'1" and I love the room in it and the seat adjustments work great for her to be able to see. It has lots of room in it.I could fit at least 3 bodies in the trunk if needed ! Saw the dates on the thread topic after I posted here but thanks for the response.
I really like the forum here. I am on Texas Hunting Forum and have made a few good friends on it. Hope to do the same here. I see alot of potential for what these cars can be made into with the funds and time. Hope to find out alot more and start on some of the less expensive mods that will make it a great and fun car to own.

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Car was damaged in front end and fenders hood and clip was replaced as well as all frame work fixed. Drives straight and smooth. Control is MTC. Will probably get out the volt meter and check window motor and work my way back from there.Same on the washer motor. I agree that I dont think both window switches went out at same time so will try to sort that out after I check the motor. Hope a wire just came unplugged.Want to see if I can get a door key lock that is keyed to the ignition key so it all matches.Washer doesn't seem to make any noise. Not much about it in the Haynes book for trouble shooting or removal.

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My wife is disabled(polio) and is 4'6" tall and I am 6'1" and I love the room in it and the seat adjustments work great for her to be able to see. It has lots of room in it.I could fit at least 3 bodies in the trunk if needed ! Saw the dates on the thread topic after I posted here but thanks for the response.
I really like the forum here. I am on Texas Hunting Forum and have made a few good friends on it. Hope to do the same here. I see alot of potential for what these cars can be made into with the funds and time. Hope to find out alot more and start on some of the less expensive mods that will make it a great and fun car to own.
One great mod for you guys would be leather seats out of a 300m or LHS or concorde. The heat you may not nead so much, but the memory functions will be priceless. You can set two positions so that it will automatically move the seat to your preset when you hit the button. Will save you from futzing with the seat everytime you get in.

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Car was damaged in front end and fenders hood and clip was replaced as well as all frame work fixed. Drives straight and smooth. Control is MTC. Will probably get out the volt meter and check window motor and work my way back from there.Same on the washer motor. I agree that I dont think both window switches went out at same time so will try to sort that out after I check the motor. Hope a wire just came unplugged.Want to see if I can get a door key lock that is keyed to the ignition key so it all matches.
Yea, take a look in the door. Thought maybe if it was hit in the side you might have some damaged wires, but sounds like it's the motor.
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Welcome Gypsyhawkeye1 - what's your first name?

Rare to hear of cases of polio these days - I don't know much about it other than what I heard growing up in the 50's (of the previous century), but I hope it can be managed well with modern medicine. Maybe you can educate us.

On the car, be aware that the 2.7 can be a good engine (I have one that has over 240k miles on it) - it has a timing chain (vs. a rubber timing belt), which is a good thing. But they are known for failing in the 60 to 80 kmile range. If they make it thru that, generally, they do OK. Not sure if it's luck of the draw, maintenance, type of driving (city/stop-and-go vs. mostly good hiway miles), or some combination of those.

It is *very* important to change the oil regularly at no more than 3500 mile intervals (filter each time or every other time) - recommend Purolator Pure One, Mopar, NAPA, or Mobil one) with that engine. Most engines are somewhat tolerant of poor oil maintenance - this one is not. Many would recommend using a good synthetic oil - if you're going to do that, do it now. Personally, I just keep 8 ozs. of Marvel Mystery Oil in the crankcase as a sludge preventative, and use Castrol GTX, and apparently it has done no harm.

Also, change the coolant. 99's came from the factory with traditional green coolant in it - depending on maintenance habits of the previous owner, it could still have the original stuff in it. Have it flushed real good and put G-05 coolant in it (Mopar brand from Chrysler dealer, Zerex G-05 aftermarket, or Motorcraft "Premium Gold" from Ford dealer - Mopar brand is reddish color, the Zerex and Motorcraft are yellow). The final mix should be 50/50 with distilled water (from a grocery store).

The water pump is driven by the timing chain, so is buried in the front of the motor. The water pump going bad and either leaking coolant into the crankcase or locking up and throwing the timing chain are the main failure modes - when that happens, usually that is it for the engine. If that happens, most people by a used 3.2 or 3.5 engine from a reliable source.


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Thanks for all the helpful info,PEVA . Hope none of that major stuff happens to mine. Car seems to have been taken care of. Have tickets for oil changes and maint. records from dealership.Imagine radiator was refilled with new fluid when they had the bodywork done on it.I dont hotrod engine so hopefully it will last a long time. Engine feels really strong and tight. Car really goes down the highway.
My wife got polio the year before the vaccine came out when she was 4 y/o. She now,at 64,has post-polio syndrome,which debillitates slowly but progressively. She is able to walk with a leg brace but uses crutched to stabilize her gaite. I am 47 y/o and met her when I was on crutches from a fall from 3 stories. We have been together for 15 yrs. now. She has led a very interesting life. Woodstock,Haight Ashbury commune life,Rainbow festivals,hitchhiking across the country, typical Hippie.
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3. Right rear window will not roll up/down with door switch on rear door or driver door.
Sometimes the worm-gear in the motor just gets jammed. Open the door and just loosen (2 turns perhaps) the two screws holding the motor to the lift mechanism. Then try the switches. If OK, retighten the screws, try again and reassemble.
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