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ARGH!!! bent my valves replacing water pump gasket

what a bad day
spent like 20 hours trying to get this thing right and fucked up hard.

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i watched youtube videos and some guy was saying when the rockers fall out... mine are wiggleing...

F***!!!!

the timing on this thing is rediculouse, and when u mess it up...
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ohh im so pissed, i cant unbend them can i?
i have to take the whole head off now?
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what did you do?? if you had the marks lined up before removing the belt , and DID'NT move anything it should of been over and done with, granted,, the cams may snap a bit,, but not enought to do damage
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nope your going to have to remove the heads and replace the 12 intake valves that are bent.
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Wow, that sucks.
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what a bad day
spent like 20 hours trying to get this thing right and fucked up hard.

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i watched youtube videos and some guy was saying when the rockers fall out... mine are wiggleing...

F***!!!!

the timing on this thing is rediculouse, and when u mess it up...
it was probably one of my videos on if you are able to remove the rockers you have a very good chance you have bent valves.
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Looking at your center photo, I hate to see you use the old style w.p. gasket. Also - you may already know this - but the type of w.p. gasket has to be used with the corresponding design w.p. The new design w.p. is slightly thicker and the new gasket to go with it is slightly thinner so they mate up correctly with the timing cover. If you mix the two designs (old style gasket, new style pump, or vice versa) you *will* have problems. Also, the new style (with thinner gasket) is better.
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it was probably one of my videos on if you are able to remove the rockers you have a very good chance you have bent valves.
Do you have a video walkthrough for rebuilding the top end? Mainly the cam placement.
I'm gona replace all 24 valves. Some of the exhaust r bent. I put over 100k on her without any major or minor issues. She's worth fixing seeing how clean the inside is.
The gasket/pump are good imho. They fit very well, and the red is the expensive one. Should be better??

I'm fairly sure I clicked the wrong side(driver bank) over and then didn't realize the screwup.
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Do you have a video walkthrough for rebuilding the top end? Mainly the cam placement.
I'm gona replace all 24 valves. Some of the exhaust r bent. I put over 100k on her without any major or minor issues. She's worth fixing seeing how clean the inside is.
The gasket/pump are good imho. They fit very well, and the red is the expensive one. Should be better??

I'm fairly sure I clicked the wrong side(driver bank) over and then didn't realize the screwup.
go to my 2.7 page...https://www.dodgeintrepid.net/showthread.php?p=1719443 i now i've got at least one video that will help you out.....i also sent you a PM with some other information......

good luck on it...let me now if you need anything else.
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...The gasket/pump are good imho. They fit very well, and the red is the expensive one. Should be better??...
The thinner gasket without the rubber part is the better one, and the thicker pump is the better (later design) pump. Newer design (thinner gasket, thicker pump) have to be used together. Older design (thicker gasket with rubber part, thunner pump) have to be used together.
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The thinner gasket without the rubber part is the better one, and the thicker pump is the better (later design) pump. Newer design (thinner gasket, thicker pump) have to be used together. Older design (thicker gasket with rubber part, thunner pump) have to be used together.
just to go off of what Bill is mentioning...pictured below is what he is talking about




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You guys are awsome...
I wish I could afford that right now. I had to rent a vehicle because naturaly I was about to move b4 I did that..
Just got back from vacation where I had to crash into a snowbank because some nut cut me off. The snow or a crowd of people... Cracked windshield and bent up the front ..
Essentialy I transitioned from unemployed to self employed so everything I spend hurts, I have to sell business equipment or personal momentos to get cash for accidents and repairs so this shit hurts. Hurts bad. I'm going to pick a part for valves as it is... I can't afford the 250 -280 for the new valves, ill rebuild it again in a few months when bis picks up. But the last 6 months everything that can go wrong has. I haven't been anywhere but work for the last 2 yrs so when I went on vaca it was maxing my budget.

None of this really is relavent.. Just griping. I can't afford that new pump. Or a timing chain. Or a new valve cover gasket or the new head gaskets...... Top ramen can only go so far.

I just buy the expensive oil, fluids and change them as per mopar specs and she lasted 150K+
If I was more of a mechanic shed have been running after that old gasket replacement.

Oh and even more fun, some of the bolts are streched and need replacing, I have 3 valve cover bolts broken off in the head. And I stripped the bottom bolthole for the thermosstat. That needs augering and thread replacement. The aluminum is easy to strip! Oh my poor baby. This car is my wife.
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sorry to hear...let us know if we car help once you start the project later
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Difficult time getting the valve springs compressed and unlocked. The tool I rented from autozone was for older motors or somthing with room..
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