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300M Special front sway bar

Does it make as much difference on an ES as the rear bar does? I'm about to install my new special rear bar and bushings and wanted to do whatever suspension mods I can that will help the handling, but not hurt the ride nor be noticeable to my other half......
I would love to have the special's springs/struts but I believe I read that I would need the 18" wheels. I just installed new Kumho Ecsta LX's, so I'm sticking with the 16"s and I like these wheels anyway
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You don't need the 18" wheels to have the Special struts or springs.
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Who told you that you need 18s to have the special struts?

I didn't notice as much difference with the front as with the rear, but I'm sure having both would be optimal.
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for best handling ,, im thinking someone said its best to go with like 2454518, but its really not that important,, unless they were thinking , that lowering they would rub,, 225 60 16 wont, as long as you have 1/2-1 inch clearance between the spring perch and the tire, your good to go, and the spring perch is welded onto the strut,, so that dont change
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The special front sway bar made a large, ~35% change in handling on my SE. Same stock bar IIRC as the ES.
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I wish I didn't know that it doesn't need the 18" wheels............ I think the other half would notice if it's lowered and the ride difference though. I may have to wait, although I'm going to check the prices.
Thanks for the feedback on that front bar, getting ready to check the price and availability.
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20 bucks for the front special sway bar at the dealership. And go with the poly bushings.
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20 bucks for the front special sway bar at the dealership. And go with the poly bushings.
For the front? I paid 170 or some such. The rear was 20.
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My cost is $75 on the front bar. I just ordered the stock bushings. Maybe I'll upgrade to poly's when later and when I find them.
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Duds thanks for the correction, ur rite 20 for the rear....(brainfart) !!!!
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My cost is $75 on the front bar. I just ordered the stock bushings. Maybe I'll upgrade to poly's when later and when I find them.
Go to Advance and get the MOOG front bushings for the Special sway bar, they are Poly. I did this mod, one heck of a change. Remove front passenger strut, remove structural collar (motor to tranny), loosen 4 motor mounts & jack motor up, . Wiggle that sucker out, 3 hour drive way job.
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Well, I just had one of my techs install the rear bar. We'll see how it feels on the offramps going home. He said he thinks the front bar will be easier than the rear...... Maybe on a lift it is. I'm debating ordering the front bar. Just had to get a driver regulator, another $80.......plus labor. Where did you get your 70mm TB and did you notice a difference?
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Well, I guess I would have needed to drive down crazy curvy roads to really notice the difference. That and rolling on 60 series tires doesn't lend to "taking" turns. Even though they're w rated, they still roll significantly. Not so sure it's worth doing the front bar for now.
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Well, I just had one of my techs install the rear bar. We'll see how it feels on the offramps going home. He said he thinks the front bar will be easier than the rear...... Maybe on a lift it is. I'm debating ordering the front bar. Where did you get your 70mm TB and did you notice a difference?
I think most guys here will tell you the front involves a lot more work than the rear. My rear took Ross 24 mins to swap, whereas a front involves lifting the engine slightly.

Most 70mm TBs came from Tom ( Shadowvox) but I don't think he's doing them anymore. Not a huge difference, you're much better off getting an intake spacer from Josh.
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Link to intake spacer?
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