Track Questions - DodgeIntrepid.Net Forums - Dodge Intrepid, Concorde, 300m and Eagle Vision chat
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 05-21-2011, 10:03 PM Thread Starter
Intrepid Fan
 
VAtrepn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Blacksburg, VA
Posts: 215
Feedback: 1 / 100%
 
Track Questions

Where I work there's this one mechanic who's heavily into racing. I don't mean sitting at home watching NASCAR, but actually doing it. He's got this wicked 68 Camero pushing 1500hp. This thing has some serious sick power....drag chute and all.

He's been bugging me to take"Christine" to the track and run in the tuner series. Bracket racing. Now I've never done this before and I know my little 2.7 doesn't stand a chance against these nitro blown Mustangs or anything else that has been performance tuned.

I've got a stock 2.7 and I don't pretend I've got anything else. That being said he explained bracket racing is basically racing yourself and the key is consistency. Keeping your times as close together as possible. So I decided to check it out.

Very Cool. If you've never done it and have a local 1/8mi track it is a must-do thing to do. I asked my buddy's wife to take some pictures and she forgot....until the last race where I was up against a Volvo. I got him off the line, but he toasted me at the finish.
Sorry it's blurry.Launch
I left the race feeling both awed of some of these cars and having a serious Jones for a lot more horse power! So here are the questions... Before answering know that I have a 2001 Intrepid 2.7 without traction-control and no modifications other than Auto-Stick.

1) I saw a few FWD cars doing burnouts. How can I do one in my car?
2) How can I get the most out of my motor without changing it to a 3.5 HO?
VAtrepn is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 17 (permalink) Old 05-22-2011, 01:02 AM
Intrepid Modder
 
01TrepSE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Woodbridge, Virginia
Posts: 455
Feedback: 4 / 100%
                     
Can't really do much to a 2.7. Maybe air intake and exhaust but even that won't add up to much horsepower.
01TrepSE is offline  
post #3 of 17 (permalink) Old 05-22-2011, 08:33 AM
Intrepid Pro
 
EagleESI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Chatt, TN
Posts: 4,279
Feedback: 3 / 100%
                     
Burnouts are really only for slicks to get the heated up. Doing a burnout on street tires is useless and will actually end up hurting your time as you have to roll through the "wetbox" and chances are you won't get all of your water off before you launch.

What time did you run in the 1/8? Have any slips?
EagleESI is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 17 (permalink) Old 05-22-2011, 08:47 PM Thread Starter
Intrepid Fan
 
VAtrepn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Blacksburg, VA
Posts: 215
Feedback: 1 / 100%
 
Times were pathetic.... I'm totally disgusted with the lack of power. The first time slip I refuse to show just because it's embarrassing as hell. (I didn't know anything about the whole two staging lights thing and I timed out), as for the last time slip I caught a really bad light. I mean sick... reaction time was 1.0623 seconds.

As for burnouts I went around the water pit for the vary reason you said. It would probably hurt my times. As for the whole burnout thing I just wanted to know if it was possible. I've seen it done on You Tube, but nobody says how they did it.

[IMG][/IMG]
VAtrepn is offline  
post #5 of 17 (permalink) Old 05-22-2011, 09:01 PM
Intrepid Pro
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: *******
Posts: 7,448
Feedback: 31 / 97%
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by VAtrepn View Post
Times were pathetic.... I'm totally disgusted with the lack of power. The first time slip I refuse to show just because it's embarrassing as hell. (I didn't know anything about the whole two staging lights thing and I timed out), as for the last time slip I caught a really bad light. I mean sick... reaction time was 1.0623 seconds.

As for burnouts I went around the water pit for the vary reason you said. It would probably hurt my times. As for the whole burnout thing I just wanted to know if it was possible. I've seen it done on You Tube, but nobody says how they did it.

[IMG][/IMG]
You were consistent and thats what bracket racing is about.
cokey11 is offline  
post #6 of 17 (permalink) Old 05-26-2011, 07:48 PM
Intrepid Modder
 
Rusty Shakelford's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Beatrice, NE.
Posts: 345
Feedback: 0 / 0%
                     
well if you could get it to stay still which it prolly wont. you set the e-brake and gun it. but youll just end up dragging the rear tires. so just skip the burn out. a good track will be prepped right and will be very sticky on the line. just get out and walk the track in your shoes and if you feet dont stick a little the track wasnt prepped right. on a good track your shoes will feel like they stick to the ground a little.
Rusty Shakelford is offline  
post #7 of 17 (permalink) Old 05-26-2011, 10:27 PM
Intrepid Pro
 
EagleESI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Chatt, TN
Posts: 4,279
Feedback: 3 / 100%
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by VAtrepn View Post
Times were pathetic.... I'm totally disgusted with the lack of power. The first time slip I refuse to show just because it's embarrassing as hell. (I didn't know anything about the whole two staging lights thing and I timed out), as for the last time slip I caught a really bad light. I mean sick... reaction time was 1.0623 seconds.

As for burnouts I went around the water pit for the vary reason you said. It would probably hurt my times. As for the whole burnout thing I just wanted to know if it was possible. I've seen it done on You Tube, but nobody says how they did it.

[IMG][/IMG]
Here are mine, Seem I would nosed out just a bit if I went against you.. 0292 One of the best runs of that night.


I did have 3/4 Tank of gas with some tools. And this was before I lowered and installed many of the Poly bushings and did some porting on the intake.. Been wanting to go back out.

Last edited by EagleESI; 05-26-2011 at 10:30 PM.
EagleESI is offline  
post #8 of 17 (permalink) Old 05-27-2011, 07:18 AM
Intrepid Pro
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: CT
Posts: 11,278
Feedback: 10 / 100%
                     
Do not do a burnout on street tires, drive as far around the water box as you can

As mentioned never worry about keeping up with the faster cars, just work on being consistent with your times

My buddy in his supercharged, meth injected Mustang got his ass handed to him by a girl in an all stock cavalier (AT, base model) last time at the track. Her times were dead on each and every run of the night so she sent him home.
JoeKD is offline  
post #9 of 17 (permalink) Old 05-27-2011, 07:32 AM
Intrepid Pro

 
dmondeac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Midlothian, VA
Posts: 2,576
Feedback: 15 / 100%
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeKD View Post
Do not do a burnout on street tires, drive as far around the water box as you can

As mentioned never worry about keeping up with the faster cars, just work on being consistent with your times

My buddy in his supercharged, meth injected Mustang got his ass handed to him by a girl in an all stock cavalier (AT, base model) last time at the track. Her times were dead on each and every run of the night so she sent him home.

LOL, I remember getting my head handed me by a girl in 65 Corvair once in the bracket finals for the same reason. Consistency.
dmondeac is offline  
post #10 of 17 (permalink) Old 05-27-2011, 11:04 AM Thread Starter
Intrepid Fan
 
VAtrepn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Blacksburg, VA
Posts: 215
Feedback: 1 / 100%
 
For those of you who have A/S, do you use it or just keep it in drive? I finally got my A/S hooked up and I think it would be an advantage to be able to control your shift points. Tach it up to around 6000 and hit 2nd. I'm definately going back out there to try it.

Have any of you seen much difference using a K&N CAI? Yeah it sounds better, but does it make a difference where it counts? I'm still on the fence as to weather to go with one of these filters in the stock box or getting/making a CAI.
VAtrepn is offline  
post #11 of 17 (permalink) Old 05-27-2011, 03:45 PM
Intrepid Pro
 
EagleESI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Chatt, TN
Posts: 4,279
Feedback: 3 / 100%
                     
I did not have A/s when I went, and I use a Stock air box with hole in the bottom opened up with a K&N filter..
EagleESI is offline  
post #12 of 17 (permalink) Old 05-27-2011, 04:31 PM
Intrepid Pro
 
DjGreggieP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Saskatchewan Canada
Posts: 4,073
Feedback: 1 / 100%
                     
I ran an 11.36 in the 1/8th, tho my reaction time was atrocious at 1.7 seconds, I have my custom Borla system, no a/c and k&n. I left mine in drive and hopefully this summer I can post up some better times with my gutted trunk and revised / finished exhaust set up.
DjGreggieP is offline  
post #13 of 17 (permalink) Old 05-27-2011, 10:32 PM
Intrepid Modder
 
Rusty Shakelford's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Beatrice, NE.
Posts: 345
Feedback: 0 / 0%
                     
if you want consistent numbers just leave it in drive. then the only thing youll have to work on is your reaction time. if you try to use a/s youll never be exactly the same with your shifts.
Rusty Shakelford is offline  
post #14 of 17 (permalink) Old 05-28-2011, 09:58 AM
Intrepid Pro
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: CT
Posts: 11,278
Feedback: 10 / 100%
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rusty Shakelford View Post
if you want consistent numbers just leave it in drive. then the only thing youll have to work on is your reaction time. if you try to use a/s youll never be exactly the same with your shifts.
Disagree, best possible times in both my Intrepid and 300M were done by putting it in A/S but letting the transmission shift

This way it will shift right at redline plus torque management isn't an issue
JoeKD is offline  
post #15 of 17 (permalink) Old 05-28-2011, 04:35 PM
Intrepid Pro
 
DjGreggieP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Saskatchewan Canada
Posts: 4,073
Feedback: 1 / 100%
                     
In drive, when I have mine to the floor she holds till redline and I dont have Autostick...
DjGreggieP is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the DodgeIntrepid.Net Forums - Dodge Intrepid, Concorde, 300m and Eagle Vision chat forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

Member names may only be composed of alpha-numeric characters. (A-Z and 0-9)

!!ATTENTION ADVERTISERS!! If you intend on advertising anything on this forum, whatsoever, you are required to first contact us here . Additionaly, we do NOT allow BUSINESS NAMES unless you are an Authorized Vendor. If you own a business, and want to do sales on this site via posting or private message, you will need to follow the rules. Shops, Stores, Distributors, Group Buys without being authorized will see your account terminated.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Linear Mode Linear Mode
Rate This Thread:



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome