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post #1 of 139 (permalink) Old 01-01-2012, 01:12 AM Thread Starter
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Rebuilding a 2002 SE

Hello all,

I recently acquired a pair of Intrepid's from auction. A 1998 E/S

and a 2002 SE


The 2002 HAD a 2.7 litre motor that knocked really bad when at temp. and had more water then oil in the pan.

the 98 E/S was hit just above the bumper cover on the right side and other towing damage. But had a great 3.2 litre motor and trans. Right now I have the assemblies out and swapped. And the donor car has been gutted, including all the wiring and dash and everything. Basically I am taking all the options of the E/S and putting them in the 2002 SE. So far so good. but still have harnesses to swap and tcm and bcm and other computers to swap out. also putting the power interior, OTIS, Traction control, and autostick in. Now if that isn't ambitious. And I get to do this all in my spare time at the garage I work at. Only been at it for 3 days and I have the donor car gutted to a shell, the 2.7 out and the 3.2. Replaced the damaged shifter cable, and removed the cloth seats from the 2002 and put leather in.

I have many pictures (too numerous to post)
And many questions.

But being The new year and I am on call... I will be back many time today as I get time.

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Welcome to the site and Happy New Year.

Looks like ah nice project you have going on there good luck with the swapping.
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Hey there! Welcome to the forum, what a grand entrance!

Have you followed the cam gear swapping requirements yet? Also - I'm not a 2nd gen expert, but I know that later year LH cars had a unified TCM/ECM (PCM), and so the parts are not cross compatible for swapping with earlier year cars... IF that is the case, are you 'down-yearing' your 2002 body to 1998 wiring stem to stern?
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You are correct... I discovered that today after getting the 3.2 in... the plugs one the ecm and tcm were different... so I will be swapping engine harness and since I want to add autostick and infinity sound, electronic climate control, and traction control..... I will have to swap the interior harness as well.

so really what I am doing is taking all the parts from the 1998 and putting them in the 2003... Basically building an E/S in the SE body. Any one see anymore problems I might be having?

I also will be prewiring it to take a video/data recorder in the trunk and a "carputer" with a 7-10" touch screen in the dash where the audio head would be.

I hope I can remember where all the wiring goes when I swap the dash harness.
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It's the wiring that gets you.
There were many changes between 2001 and 2002.

I'm pretty sure that you are going to have to swap the dash assy or the dash harness at the very least.
That will include the air bag control module.

If the ES has a Sentry Key (large grey ignition key), you will need to swap the ignition lock cylinder and SKIM module, too
But since you might be swapping the dash, you might as well take the whole steering column.
And when you do that, be sure to lock the steering column in the straight ahead position.
You can break the clock spring if it is not locked.

I had a similar project last summer.
Bought a 40k mile 02 SE with a bad 2.7 and a wrecked 43k 02 ES.
Took everything out of the ES and stuffed it into the SE.
This is the thread: https://www.dodgeintrepid.net/showthread.php?t=210321

There are a lot of steps but you are on the right track.
Good luck with you project!
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I will require repainting or finding a matching bumper at the junk yard, but I'd swap the front bumper with fogs onto your 2002 car.

Too bad you are swapping that way though - you'll end up with the older body style - 4 years older! But, may be cheaper to insure though...

As long as you are doing this much tear down, take the time to check out the struts though - if the 2002 has aftermarket struts, or has worn struts, and the 1998 has better FACTORY OEM ONLY struts, use the better factory OEM struts.

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I'm pretty sure he's gooing the other direction.
Moving everything from the 98ES to the 02 SE.
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I'm pretty sure he's gooing the other direction.
Moving everything from the 98ES to the 02 SE.
Right - so he is down-yearing the 02 to 98 specs... So, yes - the comment about the struts is backwards - same difference, strike that, reverse it.

There, fixed. Thanks Terry.

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Tom is the person that is always able to give his knowledge to you and share his stories. He is the MOPAR answer guy. And I think that he is testing me with this build. We laugh at our mistakes together and celebrate the huge milestones. But I can say for certain, I would not be here doing this if it wasn't for Tom.

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opps my bad
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The key is black...and I have taken the column out thinking I would keep for a spare. I was aware of this as a possible issue but noticed a black key. when I removed the column from the E/S I noticed the SKIM module. Did I miss something? This car ( the 1998 E/S) had after market remote start...did they tape a key to the column somewhere and have a spare key (black) in ignition?
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The key is black...and I have taken the column out thinking I would keep for a spare. I was aware of this as a possible issue but noticed a black key. when I removed the column from the E/S I noticed the SKIM module. Did I miss something? This car ( the 1998 E/S) had after market remote start...did they tape a key to the column somewhere and have a spare key (black) in ignition?
No, that's ok, cause you're going to have to move all that dash wiring over.
If you don't you are going to have issues between the 02 dash harness and the 98, tcm, pcm and bcm.

That's how I would do it. You are basically taking the 02 down to a complete shell, then building it from the ground up starting with the entire wiring harness, from back to front.

That way, every electronic component you pull from the 98 plugs in and works as it originally did.

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Welcome to the site!

Great project and you should get a nice car for a small outlay - besides the labor, of course. Just remember, if you happen to take it to a shop up the road to tell them it's a '98, not an '02.
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That's going to be a huge undertaking. Basically all the wiring harness's from the 98 need to be swapped over to the 02, you could get away with keeping your door harness's and trunk harness's. You could also keep your overhead harness and your front lighting harness but you'll probably want to switch them to gain extra features. The gas tank will also need to be swapped over from the 98, along with some if not all the emission lines. You'll probably find a bunch of other little changes that need to be made to make it all work, definitely not a small task.

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My first day off of the new year and I spent it at work playing with my car....I do believe I have the "Bug".

I first moved the car off the hoist so I could work in a very warm shop and have plenty of romm to walk around.



I then removed the front and rear seats, and then all the trim, (new headliner with OTIS), the seat belts, unhooked the doors wiring and then removed the dash and throttle pedal, then finally, the floor.















Then I started inspecting my harness and figuring what was different. any one know what this connector under the driver seat would goto if it was hooked up?


so tomorrow I start in back of the car and work forward and re-install 1998 parts as needed. also found out 2002 body did not have ABS... Guess what I am putting in? you guessed correct if you guessed ABS brakes from a 1998. might have to do axle swap. ( any one know)

fuel pump harness/ connector is also different. will have to compare the two wiring diagrams and see if I can just change the connector.

also will be changing the dash so what a great time to do electronic climate control.

any one know where the optical sensor would be if I had twilight sentinel? headlight switch is wrong and I need to know if I have it or not. (I am putting fog lamps back on if I can get old bumper cover repaired and repainted)

I don't really like the taupe color of the interior, I would rather have Black instead of the color gray that thinks it is black. ( it's only money, guess I will see about recovering the seats, and get bun warmers installed)

I called the body shop that we use for our buses and getting an estimate on fixing some of the minor dings and such and also getting a price on complete color change.

I also will be selling 2.7 motor and trans-axle (will post in appropriate section)
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