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Swapping Gauge Clusters

I wanna put the black Concorde gauges into my Intrepid, I was just wondering though, is the odometer stored in the gauge cluster itself, or in a chip somewhere else? i.e. my Intrepid only has 30k miles on it, so I'd rather not replace it with a gauge that will say 150k in the event I want to resell it.
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It's all in the computer. The new cluster will read the correct mileage.
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plug and play! mileage in the BCM. You will have to swap out the clear glass with your old one from the intrepid, they are different, and if you have autostick you'll want to actually just swap the black face onto your old one. It's actually really easy to do, it just pops right off.
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I just did the same on my latest project.

I didn't realize that the face (needles and all) is attached
to a plactic piece that presses into place on the front of the casing.

I swapped the face because the cluster came from a Concorde with ABS
but my Trep does not so, the ABS light lit up. I finished up by swapping
just the face.

Having the mileage stored in the BCM (just above the parking brake) also
solves the kilometer display problem if you have a Canadian cluster.
Just swap in a US cluster and the board in the cluster defaults to MPH,
displaying the correct speed and mileage.
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OK, cool. Yeah, I wish I had auto-stick, but base model here.

Well I'll order one of these straight away and see if I can swap it then, thanks!

EDIT: If I was to pickup an Intrepid gauge cluster with autostick, would it be possible to get it working on my SE? Everything's controlled by the TCM, right? So I'd just need a new shifter, or a way to shift the gears?

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https://www.dodgeintrepid.net/showthread.php?t=79784

Check that thread on autostick. I've got a concorde cluster for sale if you need one.
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OK, cool. Yeah, I wish I had auto-stick, but base model here.

Well I'll order one of these straight away and see if I can swap it then, thanks!

EDIT: If I was to pickup an Intrepid gauge cluster with autostick, would it be possible to get it working on my SE? Everything's controlled by the TCM, right? So I'd just need a new shifter, or a way to shift the gears?
If you want to add Autostick and have a really nice looking cluster, I have a 300M Special cluster for sale in my for sale thread. Check that out if you're interested.

https://www.dodgeintrepid.net/showthr...66#post2103866
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Check that thread on autostick. I've got a concorde cluster for sale if you need one.
Thanks, and definitely, how much are you asking for it, shipped?

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If you want to add Autostick and have a really nice looking cluster, I have a 300M Special cluster for sale in my for sale thread. Check that out if you're interested.

https://www.dodgeintrepid.net/showthr...66#post2103866
It's nice, but I'd rather have the black faces, and I don't think I can swap the 130's or whatever they are onto the 150? That's beautiful trim too, if it fit the Intrepid I'd grab that up right away.

Regarding autostick, so the only thing I can't figure out now is whether or not the stock TCM on the SE will automatically detect and support it? So if I drop in a new cluster with autostick, and wire up the selector switches, I should be good to go, or do I need an ES/RT TCM?
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I'll send you a PM. Black gauges are FTW. I believe, since your car is newer, the TCM will hust work. I think it was only a problem for 1998 cars.
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...I believe, since your car is newer, the TCM will just work. I think it was only a problem for 1998 cars.
Correct.
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OK nice, thanks for the info again. I'll be doing that ASAP then.
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OK so I'm thinking this over in my head and I read as much as I can find but I can't find an answer. Since the autostick shifter is proving to be impossible to find, I'm wondering if it's possible to rig with the stock shifter. To my understanding, there's a power wire, a ground wire, a shift up wire and a shift down wire. If I were to grab something like a couple of button switches, or a window switch, I know I could hook those up to the up/down shift wires, but the issue is then selecting auto-shift.

Does the power wire turn the autostick on and off? i.e. does anyone know if I could make the whole thing switch operated? If I could hook it up to a switch like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Aircarft-Automotive-Carbon-Illuminated-Toggle/dp/B0061IRAKS/ref=pd_sim_p_5
And then flip it on when the car is in drive to activate the autostick? Or is the on/off manual and in the shifter? Because right now I just have the standard P-R-D-3-L one, and I cannot find with with the A/S at the bottom for the life of me.

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where are you looking? I'm sure you I or many other folks could get what you need from a local yard.
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where are you looking? I'm sure you I or many other folks could get what you need from a local yard.
Mostly internet, eBay, Craigslist, etc. There aren't many junkyards in RI being the smallest and most densely populated state, and the few that are here are mostly just scrap metal because of the tax deduction things for donating your cars to the cancer causes, which in return turn around and recycle them. There's actually only two in existence that I know of, but they don't have a heck of a lot, mostly Toyotas. Granted I've never checked for an LH with autostick, but I'll have to wait a bit to do that since we just got buried in 3ft of snow.

I guess I can always try the switch solution, if it doesn't work then I lose all of $50 on the gauge cluster, which I can always resell for at least some of that, I'm sure... assuming I don't short anything, I'm no electrical engineer. I saw a picture of a guy who put a switch on his actual shifter, I can't find it again though.

As soon as this snow clears though, I will be heading to them in search of a 300m, I want heated seats ASAP because I'm sick of freezing my ass off, so I'll check for an autostick shifter while I'm there.

EDIT: This is making me think it's possible: https://www.dodgeintrepid.net/showthread.php?t=163607

PEVA, could I bother you for some clarification?
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Note: If you have not yet converted to A/S, you could install the Puttstick and instrument cluster, and leave your non-A/S shifter right where it is. IOW, an A/S shifter is not necessary for shifting in A/S mode if you install the Puttstick.
I don't want you to divulge the secrets of your product, lol, but I'm assuming this means it's all electronic, and not mechanical? i.e. I could potentially wire it to a separate button? I'd rather not use the cruise control buttons, and logic gates are a bit out of my skill level, but a simple toggle A/S on/off switch and shift up and down would potentially work I guess?

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