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4.0l cams ?

What would I gain from swapping in 4 litre cams ? And is the stock pcm able to run with them ?
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as far as the 4.0L cams, they have the same lift but I think they had another 8 or 10 degrees duration on the intake and exhaust. You would probably find a little bit better performance (although it might be most noticeable on a paper/a dyno run). I myself haven't done the swap but I've looked at it a little bit. I would think that the stock pcm should be able to compensate for the little bit longer duration. The only issue I see is that under your name it says that your car is a 99 where as the cam sprockets and tone wheel that are on the 4.0L engines are only a direct swap for 02-04 model years. You may be able to swap the cam sprocket and tone wheel around from the 99 to the 4.0 cams but I'm not 100% sure.
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Would I be able to get away with just swapping the tone wheel ? And how are the tone wheels alined ?
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Would I be able to get away with just swapping the tone wheel ? And how are the tone wheels alined ?
This was discussed pretty in depth at one point and it's not a simple swap, but there were some theories on how to do it successfully. I don't recall where exactly the conversation ended.
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Here's one : https://www.dodgeintrepid.net/showthr...ight=camshafts
For some reason I recalled somebody on one of these threads saying that the 4.0 tone wheel matched the 3.5 tone wheels used between 02 and 04, I could be wrong though.
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Here's one : https://www.dodgeintrepid.net/showthr...ight=camshafts
For some reason I recalled somebody on one of these threads saying that the 4.0 tone wheel matched the 3.5 tone wheels used between 02 and 04, I could be wrong though.
Correct....the 4.0 cam sprockets work with the 3.5 flexplate and electronics.



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Yes but unforunatly I own a 99 so I could run into some issues there ........ If anyone can give me some details on a proven way to do this I'm willing to jump in with both feet and give it a try eather with detailed milling directions or the how tos on the tone wheel swap
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Yes but unforunatly I own a 99 so I could run into some issues there ........ If anyone can give me some details on a proven way to do this I'm willing to jump in with both feet and give it a try eather with detailed milling directions or the how tos on the tone wheel swap
My guess is you would have to compare the 98-01 cam sprocket (with tone wheel) with an 02+. Start from there.



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I think the solution modifying the cam itself to accept the 98-01 tone wheel/cam gear.
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If you don't want to go through the process of machining the camshaft, would it be possible to swap out the flexplate and ECM from an 02-04 and put it into a 99 or would you end up with other problems?
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If you don't want to go through the process of machining the camshaft, would it be possible to swap out the flexplate and ECM from an 02-04 and put it into a 99 or would you end up with other problems?
Again, I think you would need to compare the flexplates side by side to see if they are the same...or better yet, check the parts catalogs from 99, and 02 to see if there is a part number difference.



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Also, you always could get a hold of Crower, and have them do regrinds of the stock cams to match the Inertia Motorsports cams, prolly 1.1, or 1.2 depending on your mod level.
You would have to send the cams out of your car to do it, but the regrind is under $200 IIRC.



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If you don't want to go through the process of machining the camshaft, would it be possible to swap out the flexplate and ECM from an 02-04 and put it into a 99 or would you end up with other problems?
If you do that you've got a huge pile of other stuff to do. Long story short you have to rewire the whole car and replace many components that you wouldn't think of. Daytrepper's done it though, it's just a lot of work and money for the parts (if you don't have a parts car).
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Also, you always could get a hold of Crower, and have them do regrinds of the stock cams to match the Inertia Motorsports cams, prolly 1.1, or 1.2 depending on your mod level.
You would have to send the cams out of your car to do it, but the regrind is under $200 IIRC.
Just talking to Crower might be the best route. At least see what they can do before going off on any plan.
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as far as the 4.0L cams, they have the same lift but I think they had another 8 or 10 degrees duration on the intake and exhaust.
actually the 4.0 HEAD has .5mm more intake and exhaust lift over 2nd gen LH, i know the exhaust lift is from valve length, while the intake is either cam lobe or rocker arm ratio, i haven't had a peek at the lobe specs between the cams, or rockers.

i have all years of the 3.5 and then the 4.0 engine specs, they only really have valve lift/length and duration however not much on the cams/rockers.

some more research may be needed im reinterested now
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