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is the wiring different on different years of the heated seats?

is the 99, 00 and 02 wiring different for the heated seats or at least the wiring harness for the Drivers side?
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Not that I'm aware of.

Most of the wiring will go between the passenger and driver seat. Here is some instructions from TFC

Heated seats are very easy to install, just wire up the left and right seats, supply power for the heaters and plug the seats into the PCI bus system in order for it to communicate with the Body Control Module.

I have indicated on the enclosed wiring pin-outs, which wires need to be connected from the left seat to the right seat. They both need to be hooked together, as the Heated Seat Memory Module has to “see” the passenger seat, otherwise it will go into a default “no operation”.
The left seat plug has a large number of wires that do not need to be connected.
These are for the memory outside mirrors
The main seat power wires that supply movement also provide the ground circuit for the heated portion, so there is no need, or any provision to add a separate ground.
The power wire for the heating elements is the dark blue with the white tracer.
The factory runs the drivers side up along the sill to the junction block; the passenger side is run up the right sill, and goes through the dash harness and is joined to the driver’s side.
You can simply splice the right side into the left side, and run it across with the other wiring.
In the junction block, the DB/W is plugged into the C7 connector, which is “natural” coloured (commonly looks white), and is put into the empty slot that is
UNDER the red wire, and BESIDE the black/yellow wire.
In all cases it should be open with no wire there, since that is a dedicated slot for the HSMM power.
The PCI bus wire is used to tell the seat module whether or not the car is in gear, so as to disable the memory portion, this wire must be connected, or again the system will not work.
It also has a dedicated slot, in the Body control module #4 plug, which is blue, and goes into the #9 slot, which is UNDER the tan/red, and BESIDE the tan/red wires

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Thanks Intrepticon. I had to change out some of the motors and plastic parts it actually was a pain. I have not wired them in yet but I will soon.
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I think what you might run into would be differences in the amount of wires present for mirror memory functions. I believe that in the early years memory wasn't even present in the mirrors and it was introduced in 2001 or so. I know though that memory was deleted from the wiring harness's mid-03 to end of production because of cost cutting.
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I think what I am going to do is replicate the wiring from my 2002 Concorde Limited, that way I should have what is needed for all the functions. Also Paintballdude05 I am still contemplating the door harnesses I have just been busy as I work 7 days a week.
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okay here is the wires I have left that I need to figure out any help would be greatly appreciated as it would save me lots of time at the yard checking a wire harness. Also I will be making a photoshop easy to read
picture diagram of this when I am done and I will post it on here.

here are the wires I need to figure out:
dark blue/white stripe =
solid Yellow =
yellow / violet stripe =
Solid White =
Black/white stripe =
Solid blue =
Yellow/black stripe =
Yellow/ pink stripe =
Yellow /orange stripe =
White/Red Stripe =
dark blue/Yellow stripe =
Grey/light blue stripe =
Green/red stripe =
Green/White Stripe =
White/Black stripe =
Yellow/ red stripe =
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Have you looked in 8W-62 and 8W-63 of the '02 FSM? In glancing thru there, I saw pretty much all of them - except didn't see gn/wt (or wt/gn). Some of them may be the opposite - like where you say YL/VT, they might show VT/YL. Also can't always be sure how faithful they stayed to the wire colors in the schematic.
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Thanks Peva that is where i will look 1st
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I hope this helps you should have every wire listed if not let me know...

Driver side connector (C319)
1 D25 20VT/YL BCM #4, pin #9.
2 G5 20DB/WT junction block #C7, pin #7 --- this one also connects to passenger side (C318 Pin 3)

6 P142 20TN/DB Passenger side same wire
7 P130 16RD/TN Passenger side same wire
8 P144 20BK/LG Passenger side same wire
9 P134 20TN/LG Passenger side same wire
10 P140 20VT/BK Passenger side same wire
11 P138 20VT/LG Passenger side same wire

What are these for?
3 P70 20WT Passenger Mirror Common (Right/Down)
4 P72 20YL/BK Passenger Mirror Up
5 P74 20DB Passenger Mirror Left Driver

12 P71 20YL Driver Mirror Up
13 P75 20BK/WT Driver Mirror Left
14 P73 20YL/PK Driver Mirror Common (Right/Down)
15 P64 20YL/OR Driver Mirror Vertical
16 P65 20DB/YL Driver Mirror Horizontal
17 P161 20GY/LB Driver Mirror 5v supply
18 P69 20WT/RD Driver Mirror Sensor Ground
19 P67 20YL/RD Passenger Mirror Vertical
20 P68 20DG/RD Passenger Mirror Horizontal
21 P162 20GY/WT Passenger Mirror 5v supply
22 P66 20WT/BK Passenger Mirror Sensor Ground

Circuit/Wire ---- Description -------- Connects to
Driver Power Mirror (Memory) - White 12-Way
1. Z1 20BK Ground
2. P73 20YL/PK Driver mirror common driver (right/down) C301-14
3. C16 20LB/YL Fused rear window defogger relay output C301-2
4. P71 20YL Driver mirror up driver C301-12
5. P75 20BK/WT Driver mirror left driver C301-13
6. P161 20GY/LB Driver mirror sensor 5V Supply C301-16
7. P64 20YL/OR Driver mirror vertical position signal C301-9
8. P112 18TN/OR Auto day night mirror (+) C300-20
9. P65 20DB/YL Driver mirror horizontal position Signal C301-10
10. P69 20WT/RD Driver mirror sensor ground C301-11
11. P114 18TN/WT Auto day night mirror (-) C300-23
12. L61 18LG Left turn signal (300M Special) C300-24

Passenger Power Mirror (Memory) - Natural 10-Way
1. Z1 20BK Ground
2. P70 20WT Passenger mirror common driver(right/down) C303-5
3. C16 20LB/YL Fused rear window defogger relay output C303-2
4. P72 20YL/BK Passenger mirror up driver C303-4
5. P74 20DB Passenger mirror left driver C303-6
6. P162 20GY/WT Passenger mirror sensor 5V supply C303-16
7. P67 20YL/RD Passenger mirror vertical position signal C303-9
8. L60 18TN Right turn signal (300M Special) C302-16
9. P68 20DG/RD Passenger mirror horizontal position signal C303-10
10. P66 20WT/BK Passenger mirror sensor ground C303-11

Memory Seat Module Connector (C319) (Driver seat)
1. D25 20VT/YL PCI BUS
2. G5 20DB/WT FUSED IGNITION SWITCH OUTPUT (RUN-START)
3. P70 20WT Passenger mirror common driver (right/down) MHSMM C2-11
4. P72 20YL/BK PASSENGER MIRROR UP DRIVER MHSMM C2-13
5. P74 20DB PASSENGER MIRROR LEFT DRIVER MHSMM C2-12
6. P142 20TN/DB PASSENGER SEAT TEMPERATURE SENSOR INPUT
7. P130 16RD/TN PASSENGER SEAT HEATER B(+) DRIVER
8. P144 20BK/LG PASSENGER SEAT TEMPERATURE 5V SUPPLY
9. P134 20TN/LG PASSENGER SEAT HEATER MUX SWITCH
10. P140 20VT/BK PASSENGER SEAT HIGH HEAT LED DRIVER
11. P138 20VT/LG PASSENGER SEAT LOW HEAT LED DRIVER
12. P71 20YL DRIVER MIRROR UP DRIVER MHSMM C2-5
13. P75 20BK/WT DRIVER MIRROR LEFT DRIVER MHSMM C2-4
14. P73 20YL/PK Driver mirror common driver (right/down) MHSMM C2-3
15. P64 20YL/OR Driver mirror vertical position signal MHSMM C1-7
16. P65 20DB/YL Driver mirror horizontal position signal MHSMM C1-20
17. P161 20GY/LB DRIVER MIRROR SENSOR 5V SUPPLY MHSMM C2-7
18. P69 20WT/RD DRIVER MIRROR SENSOR GROUND MHSMM C1-1
19. P67 20YL/RD Passenger mirror vertical position signal MHSMM C1-6
20. P68 20DG/RD Passenger mirror horizontal position signal MHSMM C1-19
21. P162 20GY/WT PASSENGER MIRROR SENSOR 5V SUPPLY MHSMM C2-8
22. P66 20WT/BK PASSENGER MIRROR SENSOR GROUND MHSMM C1-14


Driver Door Connector (C300)
1. Q17 14DB/WT LEFT REAR WINDOW DRIVER (UP)
2. X81 18YL/BK AMPLIFIED LEFT DOOR SAIL SPEAKER (-)
3. P33 16OR DOOR LOCK RELAY OUTPUT
4. Q26 14VT/WT MASTER WINDOW SWITCH PASSENGER (DOWN)
5 -
6. Q18 14GY/BK RIGHT REAR WINDOW DRIVER (UP)
7. X87 18LG/VT AMPLIFIED LEFT DOOR SPEAKER (+)
8. X83 18YL/RD AMPLIFIED LEFT DOOR SAIL SPEAKER (+)
9. P55 16DB DRIVER DOOR UNLOCK RELAY OUTPUT
10 -
11 -
12. Q16 14BR/WT MASTER WINDOW SWITCH PASSENGER (UP)
13. M2 20YL COURTESY LAMPS DRIVER
14. F21 14TN FUSED IGNITION SWITCH OUTPUT (RUN)
15. Q27 14RD/BK LEFT REAR WINDOW DRIVER (DOWN)
16. X85 18LG/BK AMPLIFIED LEFT DOOR SPEAKER (-)
17. Q28 14DG/WT RIGHT REAR WINDOW DRIVER (DOWN)
18 -
19 -
20. P112 18TN/OR AUTO DAY NIGHT MIRROR (+) C200-9
21. Q1 14YL WINDOW SWITCH FEED
22. Z1 14BK GROUND
23. P114 18TN/WT AUTO DAY NIGHT MIRROR (-) C200-14
24. L61 18LG LEFT TURN SIGNAL (300M SPECIAL) JB C10-2

Driver Door Connector (C301)
1. G5 20DB/WT FUSED IGNITION SWITCH OUTPUT (RUN-START)
2. C16 20LB/YL FUSED REAR WINDOW DEFOGGER RELAY OUTPUT HMF
3. M1 20PK FUSED B(+)
4. P72 20YL/BK PASSENGER MIRROR UP DRIVER
5. P70 20WT PASSENGER MIRROR COMMON DRIVER (RIGHT/DOWN)
6. P74 20DB PASSENGER MIRROR LEFT DRIVER
7. G73 20LG/OR DRIVER CYLINDER LOCK SWITCH MUX
8. P97 20WT/DG DRIVER DOOR SWITCH MUX
9. P64 20YL/OR DRIVER MIRROR VERTICAL POSITION SIGNAL C319-15
10. P65 20DB/YL DRIVER MIRROR HORIZONTAL POSITION SIGNAL C319-16
11. P69 20WT/RD DRIVER MIRROR SENSOR GROUND C319-18
12. P71 20YL DRIVER MIRROR UP DRIVER C319-12
13. P75 20BK/WT DRIVER MIRROR LEFT DRIVER C319-13
14. P73 20YL/PK DRIVER MIRROR COMMON DRIVER (RIGHT/DOWN) C319-14
15. G75 20TN DRIVER DOOR AJAR SWITCH SENSE
16. P161 20GY/LB DRIVER MIRROR SENSOR 5V SUPPLY C319-17

Passenger Door Connector (C302)
1 -
2. X84 18OR/BK (MIDLINE AND PREMIUM AUDIO)
3. P33 16OR DOOR LOCK RELAY OUTPUT
4. Q26 14VT/WT MASTER WINDOW SWITCH PASSENGER (DOWN)
5 -
6. X80 18LB/BK AMPLIFIED RIGHT DOOR SPEAKER (-)
7 -
8 -
9. X86 18OR/RD AMPLIFIED RIGHT DOOR SAIL SPEAKER (+)
10. P34 16PK/BK UNLOCK RELAY OUTPUT
11. Q16 14BR/WT MASTER WINDOW SWITCH PASSENGER (UP)
12. M2 20YL COURTESY LAMPS DRIVER
13. Q1 14YL WINDOW SWITCH FEED
14. Z1 20BK GROUND
15. X82 18LB/RD AMPLIFIED RIGHT DOOR SPEAKER (+)
16. L60 18TN RIGHT TURN SIGNAL (300M SPECIAL) JB C10-1

Passenger Door Connector (C303)
1. G5 20DB/WT FUSED IGNITION SWITCH OUTPUT (RUN-START)
2. C16 20LB/YL FUSED REAR WINDOW DEFOGGER RELAY OUTPUT HMF C301-2*
3. M1 20PK FUSED B(+)
4. P72 20YL/BK PASSENGER MIRROR UP DRIVER C319-4 C301-4*
5. P70 20WT PASSENGER MIRROR COMMON DRIVER (RIGHT/DOWN) C319-3 C301-5*
6. P74 20DB PASSENGER MIRROR LEFT DRIVER C319-5 C301-6*
7. G72 20DG/OR PASSENGER CYLINDER LOCK SWITCH MUX
8. P96 20WT/LG PASSENGER DOOR SWITCH MUX
9. P67 20YL/RD PASSENGER MIRROR VERTICAL POSITION SIGNAL C319-19
10. P68 20DG/RD PASSENGER MIRROR HORIZONTAL POSITION SIGNAL C319-20
11. P66 20WT/BK PASSENGER MIRROR SENSOR GROUND C319-22
12 -
13 -
14 -
15. G74 20TN/RD DOOR AJAR SWITCH SENSE (LR)
16. P162 20GY/WT PASSENGER MIRROR SENSOR 5V SUPPLY C319-21

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