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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 10-17-2005, 06:02 PM Thread Starter
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Smile Wow! That foglight mod was easy!

I just finished the fog light reflector mod. It took about 10 minutes for both lights.

Its really simple. You will need three screwdrivers for this mod, a #2 phillips, #2 flathead and a torx T15.

Step 1: remove the fog light can from the bumper

Step 2: open the can and remove the bulb. Do not touch the bulb, it will shorten it's life. If you do touch it, clean it with rubbing alcohol really well.

Step 3: with the torx screwdriver remove the metal bulb holder. (two screws)

Step 4: pry up slightly on one of the two lips folded over the stem of the light blocking thing to be removed. Pry it up enough so you can gently tilt the thing out of the bulb holder. There is no need to fold the lip back, it won't interfere with installation.

Step 5: put it back together.

This mod can be undone if you need to because nothing was broken or cut. Very cool. I don't see myself undoing the mod, the extra light is nice.

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mine have been removed, do that then upgrade to PIAA's, it makes a world of difference.
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You do realize the fog light bulb is an H3.
There isn't blacktop on this bulb.
What you did was convert you fog lights to driving lights.
That means you use them like your high beams.
Bottom line is if you can see your filament, it is illegal in terms of glare.
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Sure would be nice to be able to see that.


Oh...you have a PM or 2.
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for anyone looking for info on how to do this mod just click here for the full how-to with step by step pictures

https://dodgeintrepid.net/forums/showthread.php?t=9497
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Smile I know I made driving lights.

I wanted driving lights. These "fog lights" are not really good fog lights, true fog lights are yellow in color because yellow doesn't diffract as much in the fog, it penetrates. Not only are they white, in stock form they are really too dim to be of any real use.

The light shield should be reflective on the inside to improve the amount of light going to the main reflector, but it wasn't made that way, also the shield shrouds too much of the bulb, just the tip is all that needed to be shrouded.

The fog lights were probably not high on the designer's checklist. I have to say, the headlights are almost perfect on the car though, so I guess I can forgive them for flawed fog lights.

The output pattern has changed, the light projects a bit farther, and there is some (not very bright) emission off to the side, much like the low beams have.

The glare is not bad, it's nothing like leaving your high beams on since they are down so low and the bulb is 35w instead of 65w. Not to mention the're aimed down instead of up.The cops don't seem to care nor have other drivers seemed to mind. No flashes and no single finger salutes. If the cops did care, they WOULD have pulled me over, cops in town are really picky about lighting.

They typically give warnings for the first time they get you for a lighting violation since not too many people know the law. (they just changed it) I knew a rice burner guy in high school who got a warning for his blue headlights, they were too blue and were too dim. I told him so, but he had to find out. He got pulled over the night he put them in. Even some types underglow are illegal in town so I hear, so the're pretty strict.

The people who annoy me the most are the lifted truck guys, their headlights are aimed right at my face!
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My accolades to you, no beating around the bush and calling them fog lights.
The stock 35watt H3(750-850? lumens) have too much glare, intrepid vs intrepid on two lane road perspective.

Why not put a relay system in and put 55 watt H3s?

These are fog lights
http://www.rallylights.com/hella/Micro_DE.asp

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LMFAO....

For the longest time I thought this "fog light mod" entailed pulling out the 'side' reflector in the cup. (JoeKD's photos don't come thru in my browser). I thought WTF ? what a trivial mod. Only now did I realize you're removing the relector cap to get a brighter light !! Makes a little more sense now, lol. :00000024:
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It's even easier with aftermarket housings. Instead of the front "reflector" being held on by bends, the aftermarket ones I have are held on by a single screw.

I also put in 55W Luminics Bulbs Ultra Violet (7050K) bulbs (H3). The combination of the mod and those bulbs are amazing. The amount of light in front of the car now is just awesome.

P.S. I was debating between the Ultra Violet and the JDM Yellow. I went with the UV because I was going to go with the UV for low beams as well and I wanted them to match. But they were out of UV for low beams (9006) so I went with the Hyper White for lows.

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Why not put a relay system in and put 55 watt H3s?
No relay is needed. I and many others have been using 55W H3 bulbs in the fog light housing for years with no problems. Well, the only problem I've had is that front "reflector" eventually turning blue. Won't have that problem any more since I removed it from my new housings.
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- I have 55w'ers
- I took the bulb cover off and at 45 degrees off axis and 25 feet away, the bulb did shine right in my eye
- Anyone who removes the bulb cover will be shining the light in opposing traffic's eyes.
- The inside of the bulb cover is not meant to redirect light back to the reflector, but block obtrusive light going to the front.
- Looked at a Pacifica in the parking lot and its fogs do not have the bulb cover thingy. The bulbs it uses have the tips dipped in some sort of black stuff to keep that stray light from getting into opposing drivers eyes.

- Yes I agree you will get more light output if you remove the cover, but it is unaimed light : some will go ahead onto the road, but some will go straight out to the side and other directions where it does no good but to annoy other drivers.

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I have h-3 100 watt bulbs in my trep fogs with no relay and no problems. I also have yellow fogs !How do you ask ' well kind of by mistake i took them off the car' took off the reflector and then i used the "craft store" fake stained glass stuff .I didn't think it would last so i wasn't overly fussy but after two years and 100 watt bulbs it needs to be redone. Cost under$5.And have the only trep with yellow fogs.I would like to find yellow h-3 bulbs instead!
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- I have 55w'ers
- I took the bulb cover off and at 45 degrees off axis and 25 feet away, the bulb did shine right in my eye
Is that 45 degrees up, or 45 degrees down? I have mine angled downward (not sure how much, but I don't believe by a lot) and I have NOT noticed the light shining in my eye.
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I have h-3 100 watt bulbs in my trep fogs with no relay and no problems. I also have yellow fogs !How do you ask ' well kind of by mistake i took them off the car' took off the reflector and then i used the "craft store" fake stained glass stuff .I didn't think it would last so i wasn't overly fussy but after two years and 100 watt bulbs it needs to be redone. Cost under$5.And have the only trep with yellow fogs.I would like to find yellow h-3 bulbs instead!
http://www.rallylights.com/hella/H3.asp
Those 85 watts H3 yellowstars are calling your name.

http://www.hella.com/produktion/Hell...4ConsBroch.pdf
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Is that 45 degrees up, or 45 degrees down? I have mine angled downward (not sure how much, but I don't believe by a lot) and I have NOT noticed the light shining in my eye.

I'm the blue dot looking at the unshrouded foglight bulb from my 6' height. I have my foglights pointing kinda of low as well, but the unshrouded bulb puts out light in all directions. The bulb cover allowed only light to shine onto the reflector to be directed ahead. With the cover gone the design of our foglight housing allows all kinds of stray light to the sides
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