Cutting springs? - DodgeIntrepid.Net Forums - Dodge Intrepid, Concorde, 300m and Eagle Vision chat
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
post #1 of 35 (permalink) Old 11-15-2005, 04:07 PM Thread Starter
Intrepid Pro
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 5,697
Feedback: 0 / 0%
                     
Question Cutting springs?

Has anybody tried cutting the springs on a 2nd gen? My step-bro is in the process of cutting the springs on his Mustang, so it made me think... I have an extra set of 2nd gen springs in the basement, so maybe I'll try it out and see what happens. One thing for sure, can't beat the mod price of zero dollars! What do you think?
IntrepidBus IV is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 35 (permalink) Old 11-15-2005, 04:25 PM
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,184
Feedback: 0 / 0%
                     
Do it up! If it doesn't work out, you're not down any money. So, what costs nothing can't hurt, right? :P
02R/T is offline  
post #3 of 35 (permalink) Old 11-15-2005, 04:28 PM Thread Starter
Intrepid Pro
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 5,697
Feedback: 0 / 0%
                     
Yeah, used to have Intrax on my '99. Only problem I had with them was the car didn't sit level. At least if I cut my own they'll probably be right on! I'm wondering if there are any safety or structural integrity issues involved with doing such a thing to our cars though?
IntrepidBus IV is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 35 (permalink) Old 11-15-2005, 04:32 PM
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 60
Feedback: 0 / 0%
                     
Are the Intrepid springs a "straight rate" spring or "progressive"...not even sure if thats an issue or possibility on cars but I know it is on motorcycles....as in the first part of the spring will compress under XXX pounds, and the more it compresses the stiffer it gets and the more pounds required to compress.
Just something to think about B-4 you start cutting
ES_Squared is offline  
post #5 of 35 (permalink) Old 11-15-2005, 04:33 PM
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,184
Feedback: 0 / 0%
                     
Ummm, rent a spring compressor for taking them out and re-installing them. It can be done without one, but it's a hell of alot easier with it. Also, since the springs are gonna be out, might as well replace the bushings with some better-than-factory ones :P
02R/T is offline  
post #6 of 35 (permalink) Old 11-15-2005, 04:44 PM
Intrepid Pro
 
whitey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: indiana,pa
Posts: 1,603
Feedback: 1 / 100%
                     
good idea bus hell i got the spring compressors here
whitey is offline  
post #7 of 35 (permalink) Old 11-15-2005, 04:44 PM Thread Starter
Intrepid Pro
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 5,697
Feedback: 0 / 0%
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by ES_Squared
Are the Intrepid springs a "straight rate" spring or "progressive"...not even sure if thats an issue or possibility on cars but I know it is on motorcycles....as in the first part of the spring will compress under XXX pounds, and the more it compresses the stiffer it gets and the more pounds required to compress.
Just something to think about B-4 you start cutting
I'm pretty sure the factory springs are just straight rate. My concern is that I would just hope that the fitment would still be OK in the strut assembly subsequent to chopping.
IntrepidBus IV is offline  
post #8 of 35 (permalink) Old 11-15-2005, 04:46 PM Thread Starter
Intrepid Pro
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 5,697
Feedback: 0 / 0%
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by 02R/T
Ummm, rent a spring compressor for taking them out and re-installing them. It can be done without one, but it's a hell of alot easier with it. Also, since the springs are gonna be out, might as well replace the bushings with some better-than-factory ones :P
Quote:
Originally Posted by whitey
good idea bus hell i got the spring compressors here
Thanks whitey, I actually have access to spring compressors at the shop though. I've installed two sets of lowering springs already without any difficulty. Would be a nice time for some new KYB's too, but the originals still seem to be in great shape believe it or not.
IntrepidBus IV is offline  
post #9 of 35 (permalink) Old 11-15-2005, 05:05 PM
Intrepid Pro
 
whitey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: indiana,pa
Posts: 1,603
Feedback: 1 / 100%
                     
it wont work the fronts atleast wont
whitey is offline  
post #10 of 35 (permalink) Old 11-15-2005, 05:12 PM
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 8,649
Feedback: 0 / 0%
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by whitey
it wont work the fronts atleast wont
What won't work? The KYBs?

As for cutting, yes there are safety issues with it. If you do some reading you'll find quite a bit of info about the hazards of just cutting springs down. Of course you'll also find plenty of "I've done it hundreds of times for people" or "I've been riding with them for years and never had a problem". In the end, it's up to you. But personally, if I wanted shorter springs I'd buy a lowering kit. And no, the OE springs are not progressive rate springs...
dbaudiopro is offline  
post #11 of 35 (permalink) Old 11-15-2005, 05:17 PM
Intrepid Pro
 
whitey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: indiana,pa
Posts: 1,603
Feedback: 1 / 100%
                     
cuttin the stock fronts is what i meant sorry bout that
whitey is offline  
post #12 of 35 (permalink) Old 11-15-2005, 05:26 PM
Intrepid Pro
 
Gaze's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: South Jersey
Posts: 6,362
Feedback: 8 / 100%
                     
if you cut the front springs, you'd want to remove a full coil, correct? Wouldnt that cause the spring to no longer fit inside the spring seat? The spring Itself is tapered on each end and wider in the middle.


Correct me if Im wrong of course but I think cutting a front spring would cause excessive noise in the front end...
Gaze is offline  
post #13 of 35 (permalink) Old 11-15-2005, 05:58 PM
Intrepid Pro
 
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 4,553
Feedback: 0 / 0%
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by dbaudiopro
As for cutting, yes there are safety issues with it. If you do some reading you'll find quite a bit of info about the hazards of just cutting springs down. Of course you'll also find plenty of "I've done it hundreds of times for people" or "I've been riding with them for years and never had a problem". In the end, it's up to you. But personally, if I wanted shorter springs I'd buy a lowering kit. And no, the OE springs are not progressive rate springs...
Very true. Cutting springs is a very bad idea. Depending on the method you use to cut them, you're going to apply varying amounts of heat...which can and will compromise the integrity of the spring as far as rate and strength. Yeah, you may get what you want out of it temporarily without spending money, but in the end, you'd be much better off doing it right and buying a set of lowering springs.

I can't tell you how many Mustangs (and TBirds) I've seen with cut springs that have seriously messed up front end geometry!! They sit funny, and they ride like crap! But.....it's up to you!
slowbra is offline  
post #14 of 35 (permalink) Old 11-15-2005, 06:07 PM Thread Starter
Intrepid Pro
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 5,697
Feedback: 0 / 0%
                     
I think you guys are right, my step-bro is 17, so I can't imagine there's a lot of integrity in his mod ideas. lol. So, anybody want to buy a spare set of 2nd gen springs? lol again! Probably should have swapped out the new intrax and kyb's before selling my '99, but then again if my car were any lower I probably couldn't put it in my garage. Now, if I end up getting that Integra from my PA Title Question thread, that one will have to get the drop!
IntrepidBus IV is offline  
post #15 of 35 (permalink) Old 11-15-2005, 08:23 PM
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 3,503
Feedback: 0 / 0%
                     
Do what you want (noone has a gun to your head), but cutting springs is a completely bad idea. There is some good reading on the internet about this. I don't remember the sites off the top of my head. If I did, I would post the links. A Google search should get you on the right track.
Warlord187 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the DodgeIntrepid.Net Forums - Dodge Intrepid, Concorde, 300m and Eagle Vision chat forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

Member names may only be composed of alpha-numeric characters. (A-Z and 0-9)

!!ATTENTION ADVERTISERS!! If you intend on advertising anything on this forum, whatsoever, you are required to first contact us here . Additionaly, we do NOT allow BUSINESS NAMES unless you are an Authorized Vendor. If you own a business, and want to do sales on this site via posting or private message, you will need to follow the rules. Shops, Stores, Distributors, Group Buys without being authorized will see your account terminated.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Linear Mode Linear Mode
Rate This Thread:



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
2nd gen RT springs f/s 2000RT Buy / Sell / Trade 16 10-10-2005 02:57 AM
Will Lowering Springs work with Monroes? Edubb44 Performance / Modifications (First Generation) 5 10-14-2004 02:09 PM
Lowering springs dmt4595 Performance / Modifications (First Generation) 10 09-12-2004 09:06 PM
Intrax Springs CHASTAIN Performance / Modifications (First Generation) 6 01-06-2004 01:58 AM
to cut springs or get lower springs? 95TrepES Performance / Modifications (First Generation) 1 07-10-2003 10:33 AM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome