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Question Fog Lamp Relay location ?

I've read this

https://dodgeintrepid.net/forums/showthread.php?t=24428

how to on wiring for fog lamps, and it says you need the headlight switch, which I have bought, and the relay.

Question, where does the relay go on a SE 2.7L? Is there even a place to plug in, or am I going to have to fabricate something?

I have almost everything lined up for a front end conversion, but I can't seem to see where the relay goes. It's not that specific in the Service Manual and the How To doesn't say either.

A picture would be awesome.
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Found it. Nevvah mind..

btw, it goes in the Power Distribution Center under the hood.

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hmm, i found a place in the fuse panel for a relay, and I plugged one in, and when i turned on the fogs, it clicked, and the light on the switch turned on...

and I just looked under the hood on my 00 SE, and it doesnt have any connections in the place where the fog rela is supposed to go.
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Relay is, as B.A.T points out, in the fuse block. If I remember correctly, the location under the hood is for the European rear lights only.
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Yep, thanks guys. Now that I can actually look under the hood, and at the fuse block, I see that.

Interesting that the info from above is from the Service Manual pdf posted here on the site and is incorrect for American or Canadian cars.

Info is appreciated !
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Ok, I need to ask a little more.

I have installed the headlamp switch. I have ordered the relay, and know where it goes.
On the back side of the fuse panel, I see block C8, and the plug L39. There is no wire, so I will need to add it, and run it to the engine compartment. So far I'm OK.

Now, the factory fog lamps will have connectors. Can somebody please explain (in detail, wiring is not my best area) how I will need to connect the positive, switch controlled wire to these two lamps. Should I find and use factory connectors from a fog equipped car , or should I just splice into the wires? Do both positive leads from the lamps come together and meet the power wire like a "Y" shape?
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Ok, I need to ask a little more.

I have installed the headlamp switch. I have ordered the relay, and know where it goes.
On the back side of the fuse panel, I see block C8, and the plug L39. There is no wire, so I will need to add it, and run it to the engine compartment. So far I'm OK.

Now, the factory fog lamps will have connectors. Can somebody please explain (in detail, wiring is not my best area) how I will need to connect the positive, switch controlled wire to these two lamps. Should I find and use factory connectors from a fog equipped car , or should I just splice into the wires? Do both positive leads from the lamps come together and meet the power wire like a "Y" shape?
The factory fog light circuit is not quite that simple.

There is a jumper wire from the headlight switch to the BCM. From there, the circuit goes to the relay, and back into the junction block, where a wire goes out through the pillar just over the e/brake pedal, and runs in the bundle along the inner fender to the junction plug that is part of the block just beside the windshield washer bottle, which serves the headlights, rad fans, horns, a couple of sensors and a ground circuit.
It comes out of there as a pair - power and ground - and is split to go to each side of the car.
You will need to add all of that wiring, since the cars without fogs do not have it for any year that I have ever cannibalized.
I do have the front harness available, the only issue with it is the need to splice both horn wires to your exisitng ones. Unfortunately the car was flat on the ground, and I couldn't get to them.

The rest, is a direct replacement for your existing harn ess.
I can supply you with everything you need (front harness, both jumper wires with end plugs that will plug into the connectors, and the relay - since you already have the HL switch, for $45.00 including shipping.
If you are interested, PM me.


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Ok, I have installed the switch, and ordered the relay, and will plug that in when it arrives. I had to pull the lower bolster cover to install the switch, so I was able to get a good look at things. According to the schematic in the service manual, everything is there, with the exception of the L39 wire, which will run out through the firewall, to the driver side fog. It appears I then connect the passenger side positive to the same wire. Then I need only ground both lamps. I was asking about the pigtail connectors to make it as "factory" as possible, but I think I can find suitable connectors to use as replacements.

Heres the diagram

Part 1 here. Everything here is already in place (or will be when I plug in the relay) with the exception of the light blue wire coming out of the harness at C8, L39. The wiring is complete to that point.



Part two. This is the part I need to wire up. I looks like I run a single wire from the harness under the dash, in C8 position L39, through the firewall to both lamps, then ground them. I don't see where there is any more than that to do.



So I think I can just fabricate what little I need. I appreciate you coming through with answers and offers though, Ross.
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The wire from pin 11 on the HL switch probably isn't there either. If it is, you are fortunate, haven't run across a non-fog car that had it yet.
Part two above is correct, one power wire supplies both lights, then one spliced ground, which factory-wise, goes to the ground bolt on the right side frame in front of the battery.
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Ok, I'll have to look and see. Thanks for the info.
If the switch kicks the new relay, and lights up I assume pin 11 is wired. right?
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Well, color me lucky, Ross

# 11 is the light blue wire. Ya frickin Hoo.

Looks like I'll be good to go. Thanks again for the advice.

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Well, color me lucky, Ross

# 11 is the light blue wire. Ya frickin Hoo.

Looks like I'll be good to go. Thanks again for the advice.


Hence the reason one can not say "never did", especially when it comes to our LH cars.
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