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MSD for 2000 trep?

I want to install a MSD into my trep. I was looking at the 6A Ingition box on the MSD site. hat else would I need?
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MSD Ignition?, How does that work for a 2000 3.5L H.O.?, and what model of MSD are you looking at?
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MSD's were designed for use with distributor ignition. With ours having coil per plug design (I like to call them coil-over's even though that name is typically used for suspension) I don't see how you are going to get an MSD box to work. The ignition is totally electronic, relying on the cam and crank position sensors mainly to determine spark and fuel delivery. Unless MSD offers some kind of adapter or conversion or something, I don't see it as a viable option, unless you do a complete add-on ignition system, not using the stock stuff.
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I wouldnt even fuck around with that shit, You could fry your ignition system, and modules

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I want to install a MSD into my trep. I was looking at the 6A Ingition box on the MSD site. hat else would I need?
ACR i believe has an MSD system. you might want to check with him. although, he has a 1st gen 3.5
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I remember when I first started to frequent this site, there was some talk about the MSD setup for the newer mustangs as they also use the individual coil system. I don't think anybody ever did anythign with it though, and I really don't see much point. I think their won't be much difference with a stock engine.
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I know theres a way to use a MSD in a non-distributor engine. I saw a few months back at a car show where some guy with a 2002 maxima SE with MSD.

The MSD I was thinking about was the MSD 6A, PN 6200.
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I just searched the MSD forums and found one that will work.

http://www.msdignition.com/ignition_29_7020.htm

It doesn't replace the ignition but it works with the stock ignition and creates a bigger/better spark

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That still won't work. We don't have a plain old distributorless ignition with just a few coil packs. You need a system that has coil pack for each cylinder that can be controlled by the PCM. These are really the only ones that have any chance of working with our cars.
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I went to AutoZone and three of the sales clerks told me the DIS-4, PN 62152 will work. But I would have to use two boxes since it is made to power 3 to 4 coil packs. I even went to the MSD forums and they agreed that I would need two boxes. Still this proves a MSD can work yet it ould be costly as hell and could cause installing problems since the engine bay is compacted.
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Turbo had a MSD on his back in 2003, here's some info on it https://www.dodgeintrepid.net/forums/...ad.php?t=15512
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Turbo had a MSD on his back in 2003, here's some info on it https://www.dodgeintrepid.net/forums/...ad.php?t=15512
Thanks Joe, that's what I was talking about but I couldn't remember who had talked about it. I should have known it was Rob! Did he actually ever get it though? The thread sounds like he was just looking at it.

Beins someone who would know, how much different are the setups on the stangs and the treps?
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My stang and the intrepid are pretty much the same thing, COP technology with individual packs for each cylinder. The 97-98 4.6 Mustang GTs had the older setup with one pack for each 4 cylinders so you would onl want to compare to 99-2004 GTs
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My stang and the intrepid are pretty much the same thing, COP technology with individual packs for each cylinder. The 97-98 4.6 Mustang GTs had the older setup with one pack for each 4 cylinders so you would onl want to compare to 99-2004 GTs
I thought they were setup like that. My friend's step dad has a 96 Cobra 4.6 but it doesn't have the COP, whereas my friends 02 GT does so I figured they changed it in 99 with the body style. Is it just a 2-wire connection like the treps?
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Yes, two wire coil packs on the 99-04 GTs, not sure about the Cobras but I do know that the 3.8 V6 still has plug wires
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