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So, decided to move the battery................

Well, decided that since it was time to swap back to the "winter" front, I should also service the battery. Geeze, what a mess. The tray was full of crap from the construction at my place for the past 5 months - mud dirt & debris.
Thought I might as well move it up to the same place as the 300 while I was at it.
Also decided that since I still can't get the darn ABS/Traction control to work I'd swap the engine bay-to-interior harness, since the ABS computer is plugged into it, and I had originally spliced wiring to my "stock" harness, and the manual states that you should't do any splicing to the ABS circuits. So, I picked up one from a Special I had stripped and decided to instal it too:
First is to pull off the hood and fender...........

You can see here where the wiring goes under the fender and why when asked "how easy is it to......." well, you can see here.
Here is the harness ready to take out of the interior:

Here it is out of the car:

Don't you just love the yard guys that only have hammers and side cutters:

Jerks cut the wires just at the plugs to the engine harness. Luckily, there were only 37 wires to splice, none that will cause any trouble.
This harness, BTW, is what sends all of the messaging to the BCM and the car interior. It also has the circuits for the headlights, fog lights, horns, rad temp & fan sensors, the front crash sensor, the ABS computer, the washers, the wipers, master cylinder, purge valve and both front wheel sensors.
Here is the "new" one ready to go in:

While I was at it, decided to clean the PCM before putting it back:

All clean and back in:

Here is the battery in it's new location:


Oh yeah, polished the new tray and heat shield too- hell, they are stainless, so might as well:


Anyway, will have a full HOW-TO once I get the new filter housing built and installed, as you cannot really move the battery unless you find a place for the air filter.
And no, I haven't started it up yet to see if the dreaded ABS lights are out.
Couple of other things in the works too.


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Nice. But, c'mon, you sure you don't want to move that to the trunk?

I cringe everytime I think about that big piece of lead hanging way over the front axle. As soon as spring comes I'm gonna put mine as far back in the trunk as possible (spare tire well) for weight distribution.
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Nice. But, c'mon, you sure you don't want to move that to the trunk?

I cringe everytime I think about that big piece of lead hanging way over the front axle. As soon as spring comes I'm gonna put mine as far back in the trunk as possible (spare tire well) for weight distribution.
Don't race my car, so weight wasn't a concern, and since the factory put it there, the car is designed for it, so I really didn't change much, just made it accessible.
What we really need is a car battery similar to the rechargeable NI-MH batteries.
Solid, no mess, and 1/2 the size. Hell, for the most part batteries haven't changed since they were invented, and they sure haven't gotten smaller.
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Nice work, as usual!

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...Hell, for the most part batteries haven't changed since they were invented, and they sure haven't gotten smaller.
With all due respect, I would argue that point. They started putting filler blocks in batteries some years ago so they would fit the holders. Gel cells. AGM. VRLA.

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Nice work, as usual!

With all due respect, I would argue that point. They started putting filler blocks in batteries some years ago so they would fit the holders. Gel cells. AGM. VRLA.
That is true, I was more referring to the "cheap-as-they-can-get-OEM" ones; I now have an optima style battery in there laying on it's side, and it is only about 3/4 that size - loads of room now.
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U are too much ..I swear u are too mcuh..that is soo kool man... when i grow up i wanna be just like u. Like the rest am hoping my batter dont go any time soon lol.
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So now what are you going to use the old battery space for?
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So now what are you going to use the old battery space for?
It just collects dirt - someone suggested I could use it for a sand box to dump sand in front of the wheels in the winter, but......................
Not really much you can do with it, since it is in such a poor spot.

You can see how much easier the newer battery fits than the old one:


I have to make a new hold-down plate for it - and the joke now is that being a completely sealed battery & no maintainance other than terminal cleaning, I could go back where it came from


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Ross, you have no fear of wiring, do you? If I saw those cut ends, I would have feinted dead away. And I can tell you this: I have worked on xray machines that don't have as much wiring as these cars! My hat is off to you, sir.

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[QUOTE=Torontofirecaptain;1009127]Well, decided that since it was time to swap back to the "winter" front, I should also service the battery. Geeze, what a mess. The tray was full of crap from the construction at my place for the past 5 months - mud dirt & debris.
Thought I might as well move it up to the same place as the 300 while I was at it.
Also decided that since I still can't get the darn ABS/Traction control to work I'd swap the engine bay-to-interior harness, since the ABS computer is plugged into it, and I had originally spliced wiring to my "stock" harness, and the manual states that you should't do any splicing to the ABS circuits. So, I picked up one from a Special I had stripped and decided to instal it too:
First is to pull off the hood and fender...........

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Thanks Jim, appreciate that. I actually had a small issue that I never mentioned.
Once I plugged the thing in and tested it all, it was fine, so put it all back together.
Started the car and it was fine, but as soon as I put it in gear, the horns blew & wouldn't
stop - until the car was put back into Park.
Took me almost an hour to find that I had mis-spliced one of the high-beam wires to the horn wire - all was good until the car was in gear - daytime running lights - and then of course when I pressed the horn, the high beams came on. Good job no one was around to mock that mistake.


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Now I feel better, because that is exactly the sort of mistake I would make.

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Thanks Jim, appreciate that. I actually had a small issue that I never mentioned.
Once I plugged the thing in and tested it all, it was fine, so put it all back together.
Started the car and it was fine, but as soon as I put it in gear, the horns blew & wouldn't
stop - until the car was put back into Park.
Took me almost an hour to find that I had mis-spliced one of the high-beam wires to the horn wire - all was good until the car was in gear - daytime running lights - and then of course when I pressed the horn, the high beams came on. Good job no one was around to mock that mistake.
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