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Want to keep it running... running well... VERY well. =P

About seven years ago (in 2000) my Dad bought an Intrepid. It was a 2000, ES V6 3.2. After about four years he bought a Grand Caravan, to accomodate the larger family, he passed the Intrepid to my sister who was just entering college. She drove that thing like a beast. Heavy foot, crappy gas, to clubs, bars and school, all day and all night, little to no maintenance. For some reason, girls don't seem to care about their cars.

Well, here it is 2007 and my sister is just about done with college, she has a good job, a baby on the way and a boyfriend that's getting buzz as an independant film maker. I'm entering college and need a car badly. She offered to give me the Intrepid. A free car? I'm educated by the american school system, NOT RETARDED! HELL YES! I always loved the way the second gen treps looked, the body style just appealed to me. The car has leather (I can't stand cloth,) a 5 or 6 CD Changer (my memory is terrible,) a moonroof, great leg room and GOD! Does it have MEMORIES!

There's a hitch, though. I mentioned it earlier. She rode that thing like the first hooker you find after jetting the iron and cement of the slammer. Pardon my french... =P

Anyways, the engine sounds like crap, the rear signal doesn't blink on the driver side (doesn't even light up,) The power window on the driver side doesn't function, The tires need to be changed and the inside smells like old clothes and beer masked by a cloud of "feminine products."

I'm no mechanic, and I haven't taken the car into one, but I'd say the parts that go boom, are a little muddy with sludge. Brand new tie rods, brand new A/C system and whatnot, but that's not my concern. I'm interested in kepping this car running and running good, if at all possible, running better than when my pops bought it. I saved $6,000 dollars to buy a car, but got handed this Mona Lisa, instead.

I've been lurking for a while and you guys are not only knowledgable, but helpful, informative, opinionated, encouraging, kind and in a word:

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Before I let an amateur like myself make any decisions, i wanted to tickle the ears of a few folks wiser than myself, especially in matters of cars and ESPECIALLY in matters of a SPECIALTY, such as Treps.

First on the agenda, is the engine. It used to hum like a gorgeous girl on a balcony licking in the sun, tasting a breeeze. Now it sounds like your mother-in-laws cousin, that invites herself to "Close Family" get togethers, like Thanksgiving, and drinks all the booze. ...Yeah, THAT one.

I could swap out the engine for another (which costs between $3,000-5,000,) a buddy of mine suggested I could have the current engine rebuilt, which could put the car out of commision for several days, to weeks and depending on the work load of whever or whomever is doing the work, 30+ days. Again, i'm no expert, hell i'm not even a shadow of an amateur, which is why I'd like your help, in helping me.

Can you guys give a hand, or some text (=P) to a friend in need?
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Well first off did your sister change to oil at all much less on a regular basis? I would try to do a tune up (plugs and wires) and see how it runs after that. You could also pull the valve cover and see if it has any sluge in it if there is not much then I would recommend changing the oil every 1,000 or so to flush the sluge out then go to full synthtic (I know I efed that up) oil.

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You could drain some of the current oil and have it analysed. They can tell you the pecentages of metals, etc from various engine components are in the oil. It will tell you the condition of the internals. You can also have a compression check done pretty easily - another indication of engine condition.

The turn signal thing could be just the bulbs, a relay, the flasher module, or the turn signal lever assembly itself. Window could be similar - a fuse, relay, or the motor could be shot

95 trep 3.3 mentions spark plugs, wires and valve covers. Your 3.2L uses individual coils over the sparkplugs so there are no spark plug wires to worry about. You could get the spark plugs changed though. And to pull the valve covers you would need to remove the black plastic intake manifold on top of the engine and the throttle body connected to it. So you might not want to tackle that yourself.

You could take the car to a reputable private shop or a dealer and just have them perform all of the preventative maintenance required for the next big interval you are close to. Transmission service, new spark plugs,etc OR have them do a diagnostic, etc. and make recommendations for what to do. Then you could post their list and we can help weed out the fluff or unnecessary stuff.

If you are brave enough you can go into your profile here and add your location so that we can see if you are near any of us. If you were close to me in Charleston, I would be more than happy to help you in a more hands on fashion and I could recommend a good shop to take the car to for the hard stuff

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95 trep 3.3 mentions spark plugs, wires and valve covers. Your 3.2L uses individual coils over the sparkplugs so there are no spark plug wires to worry about. You could get the spark plugs changed though. And to pull the valve covers you would need to remove the black plastic intake manifold on top of the engine and the throttle body connected to it. So you might not want to tackle that yourself.
Damn. I forgot about 3.2's and 3.5's have the coil on plug thing.
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Well first off did your sister change to oil at all much less on a regular basis?
I've never been with her, heard of her, been told she has, witnessed, seen a pay stub of, or any other idication of her having the oil changed. (Boy, was that convoluted or what? O.O) I know she's added oil, the cheap $1.50 Wal-Mart type. My Dad used synthetic during his owner ship of the vehicle, and he uses it in his current Caravan.

Now, I cannot say for certain that she's never had it changed, but I doubt it. I know she hasn't had the car cleaned, or detailed. And she's more about the visual than actual functionality. SO if she didn't do that, chances are great that she didn't change, or have the oil changed. EDIT: I talked to her just now. She had it changed last week, first time she's owned the vehicle.

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You could take the car to a reputable private shop or a dealer and just have them perform all of the preventative maintenance required for the next big interval you are close to. Transmission service, new spark plugs,etc OR have them do a diagnostic, etc. and make recommendations for what to do. Then you could post their list and we can help weed out the fluff or unnecessary stuff.
There's a dealer pretty close to my house. I think this is the route I would most likely go. Take it in, have them do any maintenance imperative to the vehicle, then have them do a diagnostic and make a list. While i'm there I can have them fix the turn signal (I've done this myself before, but if it's more than a bulb, mind as well have them do it... plus if i'm going to already BE there, I'll cop out on the lazy route! =D )

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On a side note, the power window issue is annoying. Drive-Thrus, Tolls, Parking Booths. Anything you would roll the window for, I have to get out of the car. I took it for a spin the other night and went to McDonalds, it's sort of cute to the girls working at McDonalds, and it gives me a chance to chat them up if I'm not busy and there's no line, BUT DAMN does it waste time, not to mention it's embarassing when there's 5 cars behind me! lol
I think it's something wrong with the window mechanics, not a power issue. You can hear something moving inside then there's a loud BANG, like someone hit a pan with an aluminum baseball bat. Have to duck sometimes, cause you never know if you're getting shot at... =P

If, actually; When, I take it into the dealer, I'll have him pry open the door panel and check it out, I don't know if I'd want the dealer fixing that though, I'd gaurentee they'd screw me over on something like that.

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Lastly, can I take it into the dealer, or an Oil Change shop and have them... I'm sort of giggling thinking about this, but: Have them "clean" the engine. Take a sample, run a contents test, flush out some sludge (if there is any) and etc.. I've never heard of anything like that, and if you guys know, it might save me a call to a QuikStop or a Meineke.

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The clips that hold the window to the track are broken.
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The clips that hold the window to the track are broken.
Problem #1 (Window): Assessed
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EDIT: I talked to her just now. She had it changed last week, first time she's owned the vehicle.
If I understand this you are saying she only had the oil changed once in the 2 years she drove the car.if thats the case then I would deffently change the oil every 1,000 miles to flush out any sluge that more than likely will be in there. I did this to a 1987 Camaro right when I got it cause I saw it looked pritty dirty when I looked in the oil fill hole with a flash light. now it is prity clean or as clean a small block chavy with 218,000 miles can get.
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If I understand this you are saying she only had the oil changed once in the 2 years she drove the car.if thats the case then I would deffently change the oil every 1,000 miles to flush out any sluge that more than likely will be in there. I did this to a 1987 Camaro right when I got it cause I saw it looked pritty dirty when I looked in the oil fill hole with a flash light. now it is prity clean or as clean a small block chavy with 218,000 miles can get.
You heard right. My Dad told me to check the oil every time I get gas and change it every 1,000, too.
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You heard right. My Dad told me to check the oil every time I get gas and change it every 1,000, too.
OMG - get a compression test done, have everything checked that can be checked with engine in car. I would guess that if this was a daily driver for 2 years with no oil changes during 2 years that various bearings have suffered. Oil analysis will not be as telling as it would have been with all of the old oil in there.
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A compression test is easy to run if you know how to take a spark plug out you should not have much of a problem.
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Working basic engine maintanence is something that I can help out on, but am by no means an expert with.

Now interriors, that I can do. The smell (especially since you have leather) is primarily trapped in the carpet and headliner. You really have two options, clean them or replace them. Honestly if its get a stank pounded into it like that, you won't ever get it to smell quite right. Doing an interrior strip down to replace the carpet and headliner will also allow you to vaccum and clean everything underneath the carpet and seats that could have accumulated "shit" or a variety of natures. I live in columbus and have lots of friends in upper cinci, so a covington trip is not a big deal for me. Sometime in the next few months though I'll be meeting down in cinci to install a nice new engine plenum spacer with shadowvox. Depending when that is I could go through an interior teardown with you to replace and clean everything out with you. Whether you want to just do your best cleaning out the carpet and headliner (mostly carpet, headliners don't really have much to clean.) or actually replace the carpet and headliner (replacing carpet - takes a good amount of time but not too bad, replacing headliner - takes less time).

In the past few years I've had field days with interrior tear downs so I can do those no problem pretty quickly. In that process we could have the interrior of your baby looking and smelling like its brand new again in the course of an afternoon.



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Oh and one more thing, how does the transmission feel? I would highly reccomend getting a trans flush done and fill that baby up with ATF+4, the good stuff.
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I would recommend reading up about SeaFoam and how to clean the inside of the motor with that. If you have any questions about it, PM me!
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