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Lowering springs

Looking at the products that are available, Sprint, Intrax, Eibach and Canuck Motorsports. What are your opinions on these? The specs pretty much all read out the same for manufacturing processes. Difference in lowering varies a little bit. Warranties are pretty much the same on all of them.
What are your experiences with these ....good and bad.

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Well after owning an 2000 R/T with Eibachs on it for about 4 months...I'd say lowering isn't worth it. I say that tentatively as the front end needs some work and I'm gathering all new Mopar front suspension parts and struts to change out(rattles, clunks, shitty ride). As it sits right now..it rides worse than an old beater pickup truck with bad shocks on anything rougher than smooth road. Not to mention that you can't go over a speed bump at anything over .003 MPH!! And I've already broke several pins holding the bumper cover to the wheel well splash shield after backing out of a normal parking space with the concrete stop block ripping on the bottom of the bumper due to lower ride height. I have none of these problems on my 2002 R/Tand both cars have roughly the same 85K miles. If after replacing all the front end parts with new items and there's no improvement..the stock R/T springs go back in. Oh and not to mention the vibration under load of acceleration due to a bad CV joint or axle made prominant by the change in suspension geometry? This can even be caused by bad motor mounts aggravated by the lowering. Or the accelerated wear in front end components? It might look "cool" but after you live with it for about 6 months in normal everyday driving..you'll wish you had the stock springs back. And your kidneys will be thankful for it. I'm leaving this as tentative until the new struts and other components are in. No improvement and the springs go in the trash.

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Well after owning an 2000 R/T with Eibachs on it for about 4 months...I'd say lowering isn't worth it. I say that tentatively as the front end needs some work and I'm gathering all new Mopar front suspension parts and struts to change out(rattles, clunks, shitty ride). As it sits right now..it rides worse than an old beater pickup truck with bad shocks on anything rougher than smooth road. Not to mention that you can't go over a speed bump at anything over .003 MPH!! And I've already broke several pins holding the bumper cover to the wheel well splash shield after backing out of a normal parking space with the concrete stop block ripping on the bottom of the bumper due to lower ride height. I have none of these problems on my 2002 R/Tand both cars have roughly the same 85K miles. If after replacing all the front end parts with new items and there's no improvement..the stock R/T springs go back in. Oh and not to mention the vibration under load of acceleration due to a bad CV joint or axle made prominant by the change in suspension geometry? This can even be caused by bad motor mounts aggravated by the lowering. Or the accelerated wear in front end components? It might look "cool" but after you live with it for about 6 months in normal everyday driving..you'll wish you had the stock springs back. And your kidneys will be thankful for it. I'm leaving this as tentative until the new struts and other components are in. No improvement and the springs go in the trash.
Like we talked abotu before, I'm waiting too see how thingd go for you before I put my springs in. I'm not too worried abotu it scraping, but if I get a crappy ride I don't want ti. While I like looks and performance, I commute every day and don't want to sacrifice comfort. One reason I bought the eibachs was because they come with moror mount spacers to correct the geometry issues. I don't know if yours were instaled or not.
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You might want to take off the stock air dam now if you're not worried about scraping and ground clearance. The air dam wasn't on the car when I bought it and I still hosed up the bumper cover and broke the pins manuevering into/out of a normal parking spot. Same type of spot/conditions you'd find in most parking lots, etc. Also those pins are around $1.50 each at discount. The clearance problem alone isn't worth the hassle for me. I don't feel like finding a parking spot 2 miles from my destination that won't cause problems for the body work and then have to hike to the airport terminal with all my tools and luggage. Like I said the marginal "improvement" in looks isn't worth all the other troubles. And I drive at least 30K miles anually so ride quality is very important to me.

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I really didn't think an inch or so would make that much difference. It seems my mom's maxima sits a good inch lower than mine and hardly ever scrapes. The other guys with lowered intrepids don't seem to complain much eithert. I may have to rethink it because after the new struts go on I really won't want to pull them off again to go back to stock spings. Thanks for the info Ron.
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Having the H&R Sport springs on for about 2 years now, I'm very happy with lowering the car. The H&R Sport springs came with engine and tranny mounts which were also installed.

If you want a Cadillac luxury ride, don't lower it. If you want a firm sporty ride that handles like a sport car, lower it.

I also live in Michigan which has some of the shittiest roads around and the ride doesn't bother me all that much. But on nice roads, what a sweet ride. The ride is even better now that the lower ball joints were replaced. I think the wheel bearings need replaced though. It's getting to be that time in it's life.
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I scrape often enough........just gotta be careful, and every once in a while you go "SHIT".



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Because the H&R kit came with engine and tranny mounts does that eliminate the need for camber kits?
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I've used both intrax and canuck motorsports on a 2G and liked both, although intrax will drop you lower despite both being listed at 1.8".
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I have had Intrax, and H&R, Pluses are looks and handling, Minuses are speed bumps and curbs. You need to make sure you have performance struts also. The other factor is tire/wheel, the larger the rougher the ride. Still have my air dam in front but did scrape the muffler a couple of times. If you have a lot of bad roads (pot holes, etc.) I would leave the stock system.
The pictures below are with the air ride suspension.
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i say screw suspinsion. just get bigger wheels. yeah 20s on low pros dont completely fill the wheel wells. but get the max biggest tire, and be thankful you still have stock suspension...
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Because the H&R kit came with engine and tranny mounts does that eliminate the need for camber kits?
The engine and tranny mounts rais the engine so the driveline doesn't shudder on acceleration as Ronbo has noticed. I used the Eibach, love them now that I changed the engine mounts (mine didn't come with taller mounts). It is a STIFFER ride not just lower ride, dramaticaly stiffer.
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I too am looking for springs for my 2000 ES. I've had Eibach's in my '95 for a few years and while it handles great, the ride is a bit harsh. I've heard good things about H&R but know nothing about the Sprint or Canuck springs. I've also heard the Intrax are pretty stiff too. The car really wallows now and I can't stand it. Can anybody confirm the 300M application fitting the 2nd Gen Treps?

The lowering also improves the look alot imo. Combined with a larger wheel, I think it's a dramatic improvement. You just gotta be careful when parking!
I'd also recommend a strut upgrade at the same time since it all has to come apart anyway.
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300M springs will fit the Intrepid..... the suspension setup is the same, heck darn near ANYTHING from a 300M fits the Intrepid..... even the engine!
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Ronbo wouldnt putting on the after market struts fix alot of that ruff ride and clunking?
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