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post #1 of 28 (permalink) Old 01-16-2008, 05:03 PM Thread Starter
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My old computer that I bought a while ago for 200.00 is now toast. It was either overheating or had a problem as it shut off on its own. Now it wont turn on at all. When you push the on button it makes a bussy sound but wont even attempt to boot up.

Anyways, I'm over the old computer. I may have lost some info and some pictures but most of them are on myspace or photobucket so I should be good there and I have to look at it as life goes on.

I plan on going to best buy in the next 2 weeks or so and getting a new computer. I'm looking to spend 500-1000 on a new computer. I'm a huge fan of DELL and have been looking at them online but wont make a final decision until I see them in the store and can check them out. I have heard good and bad things about Vista. What are you guys thoughts on it?

To be honest I dont really know anything about computers. I'm looking at this one at the online store what are your guys thoughts? http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....prd83100050001

My new computer will be used as a basic computer and maybe a little gaming for fun but I could careless about gaming so really just internet browsing


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I'd suggest a Mac. I switched 4 years ago and I'll never look back.

I bought a refurbished mac book pro and its really amazing. I've got windows xp pro on it and occasionally play some games.
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For what you are looking for, a Dell would be perfect. There is no point to switch to Mac unless you are going to use OS X (Jaguar) In my opinion, if you are getting a Mac to use windows it's just a waste of money.

I currently run vista premium on my laptop. I really like it, it does have some minor bad things but when SP1 comes out (should fairly soon) a bunch of things will be tweaked and fixed. If you are looking to have the fastest possible computer speed, get XP with 2gb of RAM. Vista is still really quick (i'm running it with 2gb), but not quite as quick as XP.

No matter what, I'd make sure it has 2gb of RAM right away. Chances are if you buy one with only 1gb, that they will come in 2 sticks of 512mb. Guess what that means? When you want to upgrade to 2gb (or more), you have to buy 2 brand new sticks of RAM, and pretty much toss out the other ones. Also check into a Dual core processor.

As a company, i've been pretty impressed with Dell over the last couple years. I would suggest visiting their website and building your own computer. If you visit the small business section you can get basically the same computers that are in the Home section, but for less.

Sorry for the novel, I hope some of this made sense and possibly helped.
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I think I want one from a store and not the website but I will check it out. Thank you for the hint on the 2gb ram. I was reading up on the dual core processor. Right now I dont have the money so I'm not really looking into it until I have it.

I dont think I will go with Mac but thanks anyways.

If I buy a computer that comes with Vista and I wanted to install XP would that be possible? I would just have to buy the XP disc?

Maybe Vista isnt that bad I have just heard some bad things about it.


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Yeah if you want to buy one from a store, thats fine too, whatever you are comfortable with. You will pay a little more though because when you buy it from Dell you eliminate the middle man (best buy).

If you buy a computer with Vista on it, yes it would be possible to put XP on it, Although it would require you to format the hard drive and start over fresh with XP (There is a possibility of Dual-booting, but thats another story, very complicated).

Even if you really like XP now, I honestly can't see a reason to hate Vista that much to reformat with XP. When I had Vista with 1gb of ram, it was a little slow, which was my only complaint. When I bought my new laptop, I chose Vista and 2gb of RAM. Couldn't be happier with my decision (ok, well maybe 4gb of ram, lol).
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If you're not doing anything more than browsing the internet and playing a few games I would suggest just getting used to Vista. There are some problems with Vista, especially for those who do hardcore computing but it's the new system and it's here to stay.. for a few years at least.

One more warning, if you haven't yet used Vista, when you first start using it you may love it but more likely you are going to get frustrated with it real quick. Just stick it out though, once you get used to it you will be just as comfortable as you were with XP.
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That Dell is WAY more money than it's worth. I could get a comparable PC around here for $200 less. Dells are also difficult to upgrade with their use of proprietory parts.



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Looked at the specs of that system at Best Buy, and it really is not a bad system. Comes with 3GB of DDR2 RAM, which is actually pretty amazing. Most systems with dump you with 1GB, and a rare few will give you 2GB, but so far 3GB from in-store is almost unheard of.

The processor is a dual-core, so you are set there.

I went to the Dell sight and built an exact duplicate of the system in your link. Price came to $949. I don't know if they charge for shipping or not, or if that is already figured in to the price. That price does NOT include the all-in-one printer/scanner, nor does it include any type of speakers. I didn't see any mentioned in the Best Buy ad, nor were there any in the picture.

I'd say it's a damn good buy when comparing it to the price of the same unit directly from Dell.
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A quick search of my local Canadian store turned up this: http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/pro...gon=&langid=EN

Faster by 800MHz, with a larger screen for the same money.


*waits for "Canadian prices are better on computers"*..........which MAY be true possibly.



.........$260 for a Celeron (yes, I know it's not cutting edge at all, and a monitor is seperate, but can't beat the price): http://www.canadacomputers.com/index...528&cid=170.45

AMD Phenom for $540 + monitor: http://www.canadacomputers.com/index...489&cid=170.45




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A dell rep told me the best buy " can't handle a high end game since it only has NVIDIA GeForce 6150 LE graphics.."
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After spending an hour talking to the dell rep heres what I figured out.

128MB ATI Radeon HD 2400
Intel Core 2 Duo is 31.6% faster than a Dual Core.
She suggested that I get the Inspiron 530.
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That Dell is WAY more money than it's worth. I could get a comparable PC around here for $200 less. Dells are also difficult to upgrade with their use of proprietory parts.
Yes, you can also get an MP3 player that is much cheaper than an Ipod. Why do iPods sell like they are going out of style? You are forgetting who you are dealing with, someone who just needs a new computer, probably not going to be doing a ton of upgrading.

It's low hassle, everything matches, all comes in the box, with the monitor, has support incase he ever needs it.
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I had to get an iPod..........nothing else works in conjunction with my car because other companies don't make car adapters.

HP makes the best desktops & laptops anyways, Dells are kinda middle of the road for quality.


ANYWAYS, I'd fully recommend a Core 2 Duo over an AMD. AMD just doesn't have the power the Intel Core 2's have. I'm a big time AMD guy........and I just bought an Intel quad Q6600.........coulda bought the AMD Phenom instead, but it just didn't measure up in terms of performance numbers even though it's a year newer.




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I agree that HP is one of the top brands (thats what I have right now), but I wouldn't consider Dell middle of the road. In terms of quality the computer back at my house is a Dell from 1998, still runs good today. It's just that it's not worth it to invest money into a computer that's old, so my parents had me order them a new one (actually arrived at their house today).
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nhogan,
i am in the same boat looking for a new comp. while i was searching i found the same one you listed i believe with some lesser features, but this is a hell of a lot cheaper: http://dealnews.com/Dell-Inspiron-53...ed/208603.html
just be sure to search "ddpcgn1"

the search continues....

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