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Is this format going away.. Seems popular..
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You know, there's an easy way to solve this BS.... dual format players! LG has one, the Super Multi Blue but it's quite expensive, but still less than two separate machines.

The other companies are just too damn stubborn to make one and thus "sign the truce" to end this damn format war.

Here I sit with no HD disc player of any type.... because I don't want to be left holding the 21st century equivalent of CED or Betamax.

If you buy HD-VMD, I guarantee you will be holding the 21st century equivalent of CED, a format so obscure that almost nobody knew it ever existed. It used capacitive electric discharge discs, a needle similar to a record stylus read these differences in charge to make the picture.

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It's microsoft folks...HD-DVD will not go away.
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You know, there's an easy way to solve this BS.... dual format players! LG has one, the Super Multi Blue but it's quite expensive, but still less than two separate machines.

The other companies are just too damn stubborn to make one and thus "sign the truce" to end this damn format war.

Here I sit with no HD disc player of any type.... because I don't want to be left holding the 21st century equivalent of CED or Betamax.

If you buy HD-VMD, I guarantee you will be holding the 21st century equivalent of CED, a format so obscure that almost nobody knew it ever existed. It used capacitive electric discharge discs, a needle similar to a record stylus read these differences in charge to make the picture.

I was going to mention that. I can't really tell the difference between the two. Who developed Blu-Ray?
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sorry HD-DVD, the war is all but over. HD-DVD has 1 major studio left, and every other one is with bluray. Don't get me wrong, I pretty much hate Sony, and I love microsoft, but Microsoft is not going to continue throwing money into a dead format. It's only a matter of time.
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5 Reasons Why You Shouldn't Buy A Blu-Ray Player Yet

Feb 5 2008
Five reasons you shouldn't buy a Blu-ray player yet
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Don't overpay for an obsolete Blu-ray player like this $,1000 Pioneer Elite BDP-95FD

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With HD DVD looking more and more like it's on the ropes, it would seem like the ideal time to commit to Blu-ray--right? Not so fast. There are at least five reasons to stick with your good old-fashioned DVD player--at least for the next few months. (And, as always, there are some key caveats and insider secrets for those who can't resist pullling the trigger as soon as possible.)

1. Nearly all current Blu-ray players are obsolete: The Blu-ray standard is still evolving. Most models currently available use the original Profile 1.0 standard, while some newer models use Profile 1.1 (which adds the ability to show picture-in-picture commentaries). Later this year, the first Profile 2.0 players--which add the ability to deliver online special features (BD Live)--will become available. Ironically, both of these are designed to bring the Blu-ray standard in line with HD DVD players, which have long been able to deliver these features.

A couple of the most recent Blu-ray players (the combo players from Samsung and LG) can be updated from Profile 1.0 to 1.1 with a downloadable firmware update. But the PlayStation 3 is, supposedly, the only existing Blu-ray player that will be fully upgradeable to Profile 2.0. So if you don't want your Blu-ray player to be obsolete, the PS3 is your only choice until 2.0 models--such as the Panasonic DMP-BD50--hit later this year.

Caveat: Does anybody really watch those PiP-enabled commentaries? Or want updated trailers downloaded from the Web? Beyond the hardcore cinephiles, I think the answer is a big "no." In other words, if you're among the vast majority who only wants to watch the movie, you're not really gaining anything with a 1.1. or 2.0 player. Those older Blu-ray players should play everything else on the disc (the non-playable features are just grayed out on the menu). With the older players hitting the discount racks to make way for newer models, getting a Profile 1.0 player is a nice way to score a Blu-ray player on the cheap ($300 or less).

2. Blu-ray is best on a big-screen TV: Can you see the difference between standard DVD and Blu-ray? Yes--but it may not be as noticeable as you would think. Like all high-definition material, Blu-ray discs look their most-impressive at bigger screen sizes, where DVD can sometimes start to look a bit soft. Put another way: if your TV is 37 inches or smaller, you probably won't be getting a huge advantage from Blu-ray.

Caveat: Eagle-eyed videophiles--or those who sit especially close to their 1080p TVs--may well see a difference. Rule of thumb: if HDTV programming looks noticeably better than DVD playback on your TV, then Blu-ray will be a worthwhile investment.

3. There are still very few movies available on Blu-ray: As of February 5, 2008, there are less than 450 current Blu-ray titles available in North America (not counting discontinued and adult titles). That stacks up well to HD DVD (around 400). But it's a drop in the bucket compared to standard DVD, which has at least 90,000 titles available (including TV shows).

Caveat: Sure, it's small now, but the number of Blu-ray titles is growing slowly but surely. In fact, Blu-ray and HD DVD adoption (combined) has actually outpaced that of the original DVD format, which took three or four years before it really went mainstream.

4. Blu-ray still has growing pains: How many times have you popped a brand new DVD into your player, only to be greeted with a message that you need to update the firmware to view the movie? Probably never, but Blu-ray early adopters have faced this message more than they would like to admit. (To be fair, HD DVD has had its share of disc compatibility issues as well.) To make matters worse, many early Blu-ray players can't update via Ethernet, so you'll need to burn a CD to update the player. If you're reading Crave, burning a disc probably isn't a problem--but there are many less-tech-savvy people that love DVDs, but have no idea what an ISO file is.

5. Prices have nowhere to go but down: Even without competition from HD DVD, Blu-ray prices seem to be on a one-way ticket downward. Older players can be purchases for about $300, so don't be surprised to see Black Friday 2008 specials at $249 or $199. Caveat: See item number 1: the cheaper players are likely to be older models that are effectively "obsolete."

So there you have it: there's absolutely no compelling reason to dive into Blu-ray, at least for the next few months. But as with all of the items above, the conclusion comes with a big caveat of its own: the Sony PlayStation 3. It's the only player that's futureproof, it doubles as a top-notch game machine and network digital media streamer, and it's readily available for $400. Oh--it also happens to be a great Blu-ray player, and it does a fine job of upconverting your standard DVDs to high-definition resolutions. As such, it remains the exception to the rule, and the only Blu-ray player that we can enthusiastically recommend for the time being.
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I never said go out and buy a bluray player, I just said don't buy an HDDVD player unless you want to have dead technology in a year.
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Dolan; Don't get so defensive...this has nothing to do with what you said. I just read it and posted it.

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Wow....Betamax huh??? I really doubt that HD DVD will go that far away, but you never know. I am probably going to take the plunge on a PS3. With the games coming out and it being "futureproof" why not get it?
Honestly, in this age of technology, you really can't say anything is "futureproof" if you ask me.
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HDDVD lost, get over it. It's only a matter of time until paramount switches to blu-ray also, and then there will be no HDDVD's out there at all.
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Honestly, in this age of technology, you really can't say anything is "futureproof" if you ask me.
PS3 is "futureproof" for about 2-3 more years before the XBox 720 comes out ;). That's the funny part about it.

Blu Ray will NEVER catch on for the mass market. I think most people will just skip over this generation of media formats. DVD's are 100% fine for 95% of the population. I know I'm not willing to switch even though I have an HDTV. The next format will probably be digitally delivered such as downloaded onto flash drives at the video store, or downloaded off the net.



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