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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 09-26-2002, 09:02 PM Thread Starter
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as some of you may know, I ahve been having prblems with getting Cable or DSL internet for no more than 50 bucks a month from anyone other than AT&T because, according to Covad Communications, I am more than approximately 15,000 feet from the phone company's CO (central office). The CO is in the same town as me, but it is the biggest village (by population) in the United States, and I am too far away. according to the salesman I talked to, he said I have to contact a phone company and not a third party ISP, so I tried that SBC/Yahoo online application and they said it's not available in my area, so, umm, what now?
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post #2 of 16 (permalink) Old 09-26-2002, 11:19 PM
 
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satellite internet access.
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I know of one other member who has satellite but I don't know how it works and how much it is and, umm, who has it and are there any restricitions? handicaps?
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I honestly couldn't tell you. I don't have it myself, and was just recently made aware that it exists.
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Thinking about it thought, I don't think that you need any special equipment except the dish/reciever that you should have if you have satellite tv. Maybe you do, but I can't see that you would. As for connection speeds, it's gotta be better than dial up.
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its 128k for $110 per month. Have you looked into isdn it will be the same speed and probably cheaper. just pay the $15 a month for 56k if you can't get isdn and bitch to the company to extend their network.
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Ive looked into satellite dsl, in my opinion its really not worth it at all. You need a different dish that if you say had regular DirecTv, and as far as I know DirecTV is just about the only one out there that offers its but i probably am wrong. You need a special dsl modem, not your standard best buy/circuit city off the shelf because even though dsl runs at higher frequencies, satellite signals operate in a much high frequency range. Its also a standard phone line return to your nearest CO. I believe there is a cap of something like 1gig/month download, speeds i saw were around 384k/bits/second. "always on" is bullshit too, because just like satellite tv, if you have a cloudy/rainy day you are not getting online, plus all the advantages of dsl/cable are lost with satellite, like being online without holding up the phone line, the faster upload speeds which is a big deal with online gaming or file sharing, plus with those you also get faster download speeds, not to mention the price, sat. runs 50+month vs dsl/cable in the area of 20-50month but thats what i see threw my eyes, how you look at it might be different
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well, as I said, I have not found any alternatives on approximately the same speed/price ratio
FWIW, a T1 online, which is available anywhere, is only $780/month
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If you can't hang with dial-up, satallite may be your best bet for now. You can look into IDSL (a funky ISDN/DSL hybrid) to see if it's available - usually through Covad - but I'd recommend that only as a last resort. It is also quite spendy for what you get out of it.

As for satallite, if you primarily use the internet to surf the web, download songs, etc., you should be fine if the price is acceptable. You will find, however, that if you play games online or have any other "real-time" type of communication where latency is vital that dial-up will be better. You see, most satallite ISPs require that your upload stream be via telephone. Just recently some have added the ability to transmit - thereby removing the dialup requirement. Regardless, you will notice high latency (ping times) as data needs to go through the normal routes on the internet but they also need to be sent up to the satallite then back down to your receiver - and vice versa for the transmission enabled providers. This means that people will not want to play with you as your little dude will be hopping around their screen - they will also be hopping around yours. You will be labled a High Ping Bastard and people will hunt you down in-game.

In short, if you don't want to spend more than $50/mo. and can't hang with dial-up, you're stuck with AT&T.
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I still can't understand how it is that AT&T can do it and no other phone company can, I understand that third parties cannot, but phone companies? how is AT&T different from SBC, or Sprint?
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Just a little bit of information, ping time from earth base transmitter to the satallite and back down to earth is 22milliseconds...
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You live in the Chicago area right? And they don't offer cable internet access???!!!! WTF???!!!!!!

Cable is the way to go. You don't have to worry about how far you are away from the CO and it uses the same wall jack as your cable tv and same type of coaxial cable. Right know I'm running both cable tv and cable internet off the same wall jack (using a splitter of course).
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Get yourself a spool of cable, ghetto it to the car, attach one end to your house and start driving!

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You live in the Chicago area right? And they don't offer cable internet access???!!!! WTF???!!!!!!
it's not in Chicago, it's some parts of the suburbs.
the CO is actually in my city, it just also happens to be that my city is the highest populated village in America
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