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32-bit vs. 64-bit

I am planning on getting a new computer in the next month or two. Most likely it will have an Intel Core 2 Quad processor, but that has yet to be determined.

Currently I am running XP Pro (32-bit) but have my choice to install XP Pro, 32-bit or 64-bit on the new machine. I recognize the obvious gains in going with the 64-bit version, but what are the pitfalls?
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more of a prestine fuller sound/video when your at 64 bit or +!,
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Stick with winXP 32bit. LAst time I tried 64bit it had more bugs then a whore's sniz.
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I am planning on getting a new computer in the next month or two. Most likely it will have an Intel Core 2 Quad processor, but that has yet to be determined.

Currently I am running XP Pro (32-bit) but have my choice to install XP Pro, 32-bit or 64-bit on the new machine. I recognize the obvious gains in going with the 64-bit version, but what are the pitfalls?
the 64-bit version of windows doesn't run all 32-bit programs... kind of a big pitfall...
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I'm running 64 bit Vista on my Q6600 with an 8800GT 512MB video card, 4GB of RAM and 1.5TB of HDD space (RAID 0), and for the MOST part, I'm pretty happy with it. My printer doesn't work (and neither does my webcam), but other than that........everything runs pretty damn nice!

I use office, internet explorer, itunes, winamp, and a bunch of games.........everything runs pretty good.



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I can think of no good use for 64-bit, IMHO. Unless you're doing some hardcore computing, CAD, Editing, etc. in which the program you'd be running works better in 64-bit, I can not think of any reason why anyone would need to run that, yet. Most programs today don't, and can't, use any of the benefits of 64-bit, so why run it until the majority of things you'd have installed can?

My roommate last year installed it, and it was ultimately pointless. He had an AMD processor that apparently let him run every program he would ever use in 32-bit, but he was OH SO HAPPY that he had XP-64. Oy. Kids.

Anyways, like I said, just my opinion.
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I am running XP 64-bit and I hate it. It runs perfectly but hardly any programs have support for it and the ones that do just use the 32bit version so they don't actually take advantage of the 64bit processor. Also a lot of hardware might not work for it also I have a dvr card on my computer and it does not have 64bit drivers. Overall I don't see much of an advantage of having the 64bit os I would just stick with 32.
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Thank you folks. That was pretty much what I figured but was not sure if the driver issue had gotten any better for the 64-bit. I guess I will stick with 32-bit XP and just hold on to the other OS's for a future date. Since they did not cost me anything, I am not out anything. (My wife is both a college student (PhD) and a college teacher so she gets all kinds of software for free!)
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If it's a NEW computer with new hardware, I'd say 64 bit is GREAT. If you're planning on reusing hardware.......64 bit might not work with everything.

About 50% of the programs I use take advantage of 64 bit architecture. About 5% of the programs I want to use don't support 64 bit, and won't work (AutoCAD 2008, however 2009 supports 64 bit).

I PERSONALLY wouldn't bother with XP 64-Bit. Vista 64-bit drivers are becoming somewhat commonplace though.




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If it's a NEW computer with new hardware, I'd say 64 bit is GREAT. If you're planning on reusing hardware.......64 bit might not work with everything.

About 50% of the programs I use take advantage of 64 bit architecture. About 5% of the programs I want to use don't support 64 bit, and won't work (AutoCAD 2008, however 2009 supports 64 bit).

I PERSONALLY wouldn't bother with XP 64-Bit. Vista 64-bit drivers are becoming somewhat commonplace though.
Yes CAD does run very nicely on my computer and it runs like garbage on the computers at school.
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The complete system would be new, so in theory, no hardware conflicts unless it can't run my laser printer. Adobe CS3 & Crysis would be the most stressful software on it, and both of those will run fine in 32-bit.
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The complete system would be new, so in theory, no hardware conflicts unless it can't run my laser printer. Adobe CS3 & Crysis would be the most stressful software on it, and both of those will run fine in 32-bit.
Yeah, Crysis runs fine.......riiiiiiiiight

Crysis won't run fine unless you have CUTTING EDGE equipment.........and I mean CUTTING EDGE! Triple SLI'd 8800GTX's MIGHT do it.



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If you're gaming, there's no reason at all to use 64 bit.

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more of a prestine fuller sound/video when your at 64 bit or +!,
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I ran XP 64-bit since I believe about a month after its release.

I then installed a second HDD and installed Vista Ultimate 64-bit on that as well.

The reason I went with 64-bit Professional was the fact I had 4GB of RAM. Also, I wanted the challenge and the benefits associated with 64-bit.

First and foremost, 64-bit Professional was more stable than XP Professional 32-bit by a long shot. Especially when things weren't emulating 32-bit and you actually found software that could run in 64-bit natively. Like Firefox.

That being said, XP Professional 64-bit came with IE 64-bit. I believe default it was IE 6 as they weren't pre-shipped with IE 7, although w. newer versions I could be incorrect. That was a joke. You couldn't even do Windows Updates through it because MS said it wasn't a supported browser. Lmao.

In addition, driver support is nill. No one knows that the OS even exists. You waste your life away finding hardware that doesn't work with XP 64-bit. And you spend your money upgrading to stuff that does. Finally, when that's done, the software is still typically running in 32-bit emulation. Great deal there.

I remember I replaced my motherboard and Windows wouldn't re-register unless I called MS directly because of "vast hardware specification adjustment" or some bullshit like that. I called them and they had to transfer me to someone that actually knew that OS existed. I was told by the first two people there wasn't any 64-bit version of WinXP.

But no viruses! Lmao. Not a damn thing for that OS. Never ran a AV or Spyware program. Not that I do anything that justified ever putting it on a 32-bit OS I owned, but nevertheless, there's still to this day nothing in terms of malicious shit coded to attack 64-bit Professional to the best of my knowledge.

Saying that, I went to Ultimate. Never went back. I thought I would, but I never did. Vista is such a more dynamic, intelligent, and more robust OS than XP ever was. But more importantly, since Vista 64-bit was released at the same date that Vista was released, corporations actually make software for it. What a concept. Meaning you have software, drivers, and a more intelligent and stable OS. It really is a better OS than XP Professional 64-bit was.

Nevertheless, despite not having drivers for -anything- (and no, Rob, I don't want to hear how your printer didn't work on 64-bit Ultimate because until you know what 64-bit Pro was like you are absent of "I just got raped in the ass" sentiment), half the 64-bit software not running or even being recognized, no one knowing you even have that OS, no hardware support, and endless headaches...I loved that OS. Oh, I had to HACK my Zune software to work on 64-bit as wel. Nice MS product working on that MS OS (it told me to "upgrade to Win2000 or WinXP LOL)..

But I loved that damn thing. Still do. It's just that after using it for so long I refer to WinXP 64-bit as a rare hobby that 15 people over the world indulge in, not an actual mainstream OS. I think even the Ubuntu users laughed their ass off at that OS, lmao

I'd just say stick with 32-bit, though, or go with 64-bit Ultimate.

I remember one time a guy came in at my work and said he needed something for WinXP 64-bit, and they rushed in back to get me; we started talking and one of the other technicians walks up and goes, "Oh look, it's 15% of the WinXP 64-bit user base!"

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I ran XP 64-bit since I believe about a month after its release.

I then installed a second HDD and installed Vista Ultimate 64-bit on that as well.

The reason I went with 64-bit Professional was the fact I had 4GB of RAM. Also, I wanted the challenge and the benefits associated with 64-bit.

First and foremost, 64-bit Professional was more stable than XP Professional 32-bit by a long shot. Especially when things weren't emulating 32-bit and you actually found software that could run in 64-bit natively. Like Firefox.

That being said, XP Professional 64-bit came with IE 64-bit. I believe default it was IE 6 as they weren't pre-shipped with IE 7, although w. newer versions I could be incorrect. That was a joke. You couldn't even do Windows Updates through it because MS said it wasn't a supported browser. Lmao.

In addition, driver support is nill. No one knows that the OS even exists. You waste your life away finding hardware that doesn't work with XP 64-bit. And you spend your money upgrading to stuff that does. Finally, when that's done, the software is still typically running in 32-bit emulation. Great deal there.

I remember I replaced my motherboard and Windows wouldn't re-register unless I called MS directly because of "vast hardware specification adjustment" or some bullshit like that. I called them and they had to transfer me to someone that actually knew that OS existed. I was told by the first two people there wasn't any 64-bit version of WinXP.

But no viruses! Lmao. Not a damn thing for that OS. Never ran a AV or Spyware program. Not that I do anything that justified ever putting it on a 32-bit OS I owned, but nevertheless, there's still to this day nothing in terms of malicious shit coded to attack 64-bit Professional to the best of my knowledge.

Saying that, I went to Ultimate. Never went back. I thought I would, but I never did. Vista is such a more dynamic, intelligent, and more robust OS than XP ever was. But more importantly, since Vista 64-bit was released at the same date that Vista was released, corporations actually make software for it. What a concept. Meaning you have software, drivers, and a more intelligent and stable OS. It really is a better OS than XP Professional 64-bit was.

Nevertheless, despite not having drivers for -anything- (and no, Rob, I don't want to hear how your printer didn't work on 64-bit Ultimate because until you know what 64-bit Pro was like you are absent of "I just got raped in the ass" sentiment), half the 64-bit software not running or even being recognized, no one knowing you even have that OS, no hardware support, and endless headaches...I loved that OS. Oh, I had to HACK my Zune software to work on 64-bit as wel. Nice MS product working on that MS OS (it told me to "upgrade to Win2000 or WinXP LOL)..

But I loved that damn thing. Still do. It's just that after using it for so long I refer to WinXP 64-bit as a rare hobby that 15 people over the world indulge in, not an actual mainstream OS. I think even the Ubuntu users laughed their ass off at that OS, lmao

I'd just say stick with 32-bit, though, or go with 64-bit Ultimate.

I remember one time a guy came in at my work and said he needed something for WinXP 64-bit, and they rushed in back to get me; we started talking and one of the other technicians walks up and goes, "Oh look, it's 15% of the WinXP 64-bit user base!"
I have been debating upgrading to Vista Ultimate 64-bit and after hearing this I just might have too once I have the money. I will still keep my Windows XP 32 on my second hard drive though just in case.
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